# Sports team of GOAT clones **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 7, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-team-of-goat-clones/790708 "2017-07-07T17:25:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-team-of-goat-clones/790708/61 "2017-07-11T12:26:12Z")
When you are on that theme you would need to look at Jack Brabham who won three Formula One Drivers Championships ('59, '60 and '66) and with his eponymous racing team won four Driver’s Championships ('66 Brabham, '67 Hulme, '81 & '83 Pique) and two Constructors Championships. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-team-of-goat-clones/790708/62 "2017-07-11T12:45:55Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > When you are on that theme you would need to look at Jack Brabham who won three Formula One Drivers Championships ('59, '60 and '66) and with his eponymous racing team won four Driver’s Championships ('66 Brabham, '67 Hulme, '81 & '83 Pique) and two Constructors Championships. Yes I think there are a few designer/engineer/drivers of that era that would be in with a good shout. Perhaps even Colin Chapman? weakest driver so far mentioned but perhaps the visionary engineer. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-team-of-goat-clones/790708/63 "2017-07-11T21:47:21Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > That is an interesting thought > > The two areas of motorsport engineering and driving are so specialised these days that getting someone expert in both is next to impossible. > > However, going back a couple of generations and we have people like Bruce McLaren who I’d suspect could design and build a better car than Mansell, even though Mansell is more likely to extract the most performance from what he built. Ooo, I might change my answer to Bruce. Good call. He dominated Can-Am in his own cars with Hulme until Porsche showed up. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-team-of-goat-clones/790708/64 "2017-07-11T21:48:26Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > When you are on that theme you would need to look at Jack Brabham who won three Formula One Drivers Championships ('59, '60 and '66) and with his eponymous racing team won four Driver’s Championships ('66 Brabham, '67 Hulme, '81 & '83 Pique) and two Constructors Championships. Also a good thought…I think I’m gonna stick with Bruce though. ---
**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-team-of-goat-clones/790708/65 "2017-07-11T22:23:42Z")
A swimming relay with 4 Michael Phelps would be tough. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-team-of-goat-clones/790708/66 "2017-07-11T23:21:53Z")
As would a 4x100 relay with 4 Usain Boltseses ---
**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-team-of-goat-clones/790708/67 "2017-07-12T12:32:08Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I think that a basketball team would benefit more from this treatment than a soccer team would. Sure, the goalie isn’t as critical in soccer as in some sports, but it’s still a radically different position than the others. Basketball doesn’t really have that at all. I think I disagree: the problem is that playing center and guard in basketball doesn’t just require different skills (though posting up is a totally different skill than jump shooting), it’s that center and guard require different physical attributes. There’s no physical reason Pele couldn’t have been a good goalkeeper, and I suspect with just a little practice he could have been at least a mediocre one. But there is no amount of training and practice that would let Kyrie Irving effectively defend a seven footer in the paint (and vice versa for the seven footer defending the guard on the perimeter). Now LeBron and Durant are freaks of nature who are quick enough to kinda defend guards and tall enough to kinda defend centers, so there’s a chance, but their clones are at a fundamental defensive disadvantage against a team with true guards and true centers, in a way that the Pele clones aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-team-of-goat-clones/790708/68 "2017-07-14T18:08:33Z")
> [@Quercus](#): > > But there is no amount of training and practice that would let Kyrie Irving effectively defend a seven footer in the paint (and vice versa for the seven footer defending the guard on the perimeter). Now LeBron and Durant are freaks of nature who are quick enough to kinda defend guards and tall enough to kinda defend centers, so there’s a chance, but their clones are at a fundamental defensive disadvantage against a team with true guards and true centers, in a way that the Pele clones aren’t. As the saying goes, you can’t coach height. That is why I’d take a team of KD clones, or Kareem clones – as mentioned upthread, Kareem’s sky hook is unstoppable. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-team-of-goat-clones/790708/69 "2017-07-14T18:49:39Z")
I say we practice against SIX! Larry Birds! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-team-of-goat-clones/790708.md?page=3)