# Sports Villains

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 22, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071 "2010-12-22T14:09:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/21 "2010-12-22T18:58:54Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Not sure how I left off the Steelers. Their fans are generally the douchiest in the NFL,

Huh? Steelers fans aren’t even the douchiest NFL fans in Pennsylvania.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/22 "2010-12-22T19:06:25Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Baltimore Ravens. I have an irrational hatred of them for no good reason, except possibly that I think Ray Lewis is a loud-mouthed bag-o-douche (don’t tell him I said that).

My issue with the Baltimore Ravens is that Gov. Glendening had just finished a series of speeches on how there was no more money for education – then approved millions for the Ravens stadium.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/23 "2010-12-22T19:21:38Z")

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I shall now post what will probably be the most unpopular opinion I’ve ever posted on SDMB:

Despite his past, I kind of like Michael Vick.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/24 "2010-12-22T19:32:28Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Whoever said Sean Avery is correct – the guy is a douchecicle who supposedly heckled an opponent for having cancer.

This story came from a Toronto journal who’s an even bigger attention-whoring jackass than Avery. He ended up having to retract it.

Doesn’t mean that Avery isn’t a total douchebag, but in the interests of fairness this particular story isn’t true.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/25 "2010-12-22T19:41:37Z")

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I meant to say “ **likely** isn’t true” there.

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**Author:** ![KennerTheGreat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a8b319/32.png) [@KennerTheGreat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennerTheGreat)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/26 "2010-12-22T19:51:42Z")

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Brian Burke, GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Most overrated GM in the league.

None of the Leaf players are good enough for me to even care about.

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**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/27 "2010-12-22T20:01:45Z")

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[Born and raised in Philadelphia, PA]

Any N.Y. team

Any L.A. team

Any Boston team

Dallas Cowboys

Notre Dame

Any North Jersey team that is a N.Y. team in disguise: N.J. Nets. and N.J. Devils

Chicago Cubs - annoying fans

Boston Red Sox - annoying fans

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/28 "2010-12-22T20:27:13Z")

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Teams I hate:

Baseball - none (The Yankees are so dominant, there’s no reason to hate any other team)  
Football - Patriots and Cowboys (although the Steelers are still the undisputed kings of the sport)  
College Football - Notre Dame and USC  
Basketball - Celtics and Lakers  
College Basketball - Duke

Players and athletes I hate (but respect):

Tom Brady  
Peyton Manning  
Ray Lewis  
Kobe Bryant  
Emmitt Smith  
Floyd Mayweather  
Bernard Hopkins

Players and athetes I hate (and don’t respect):

Ron Artest  
Terrell Owens  
Mike Tyson (although my hatred is fading)

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/29 "2010-12-22T20:39:55Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Not sure how I left off the Steelers. Their fans are generally the douchiest in the NFL,

So true, and also a shame, because I really like and admire the Rooney family.

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/30 "2010-12-22T20:57:14Z")

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Lebron James x 1000000000000000000000000

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/31 "2010-12-22T21:21:23Z")

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New York Yankees. Their fans feel that winning the World Series every third year, at a minimum, is their God-given right. They are able to buy their way to said World Series. Ugh.

Dallas Cowboys. See above – just substitute “Super Bowl” for “World Series”.

Randy Moss. Asshat. Cannot be arsed to try half the time. Cannot be counted on. Whiny.

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/32 "2010-12-22T22:05:28Z")

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MLB: The Yankees, Red Sox and Cubs  
NFL: Cowboys, “Stillers” and Ravens  
NBA: Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Pistons, Heat  
NCAA: Southern Cal, Michigan, North Carolina, Duke, Florida State, Texas and the entire SEC other than Vanderbilt.

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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/33 "2010-12-22T22:55:10Z")

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Cleveland Cav fans: Why does LeBron owe any loyalty to Cleveland? Just because they got a ping-pong ball with their name on it?

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**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/34 "2010-12-22T23:30:53Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I shall now post what will probably be the most unpopular opinion I’ve ever posted on SDMB:
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> Despite his past, I kind of like Michael Vick.

I’ll stand with you, and even go farther - I don’t really care about the dog thing, and I think he’s the most exciting thing in the NFL this season. I would like to see him do well. He’s fantastic.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/35 "2010-12-23T00:53:46Z")

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I hate Bill Belichick for the way he left the Jets high and dry after Parcells stepped down, and to a division rival, no less. Total lack of class.

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/36 "2010-12-23T01:06:39Z")

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> [@Sateryn76](#):
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> I’ll stand with you, and even go farther - I don’t really care about the dog thing, and I think he’s the most exciting thing in the NFL this season. I would like to see him do well. He’s fantastic.

I wouldn’t say I like Vick, but he did the time and seems to have learned from his mistakes.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/37 "2010-12-23T01:37:22Z")

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Vick’s certainly learned to say the right (rehearsed) things to a mike, and shut up the rest of the time. The basic cruelty that could cause him to do what he did? Not so easy to purge.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/38 "2010-12-23T01:41:37Z")

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NFL: Bears. Vikings, Cowboys, and Brent Farve.

NHL: Buffalo, Pittsburgh(both because of the drunken fans), Red Wings, Sidney Crosby, Brooks Orpik, Alex Ovechkin, and Sean Avery.

NCAA: I’m a ABC guy(Anybody But Carolina)

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**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/39 "2010-12-23T03:10:58Z")

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> [@HubZilla](#):
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> Cleveland Cav fans: Why does LeBron owe any loyalty to Cleveland? Just because they got a ping-pong ball with their name on it?

He doesn’t necessarily owe any loyalty to Cleveland though he was born in Akron just south of Cleveland so I could see some people saying he does for that reason. What he owed to Cleveland was not leaving in such a contrived and sure-to-hurt-feelings announcement. That was a class-less act.

Teams I hate:

Baseball: NY Yankees (and Mets by extension since they play in the same city).  
The Phillies see below.

Football – Dallas Cowboys, Giants and Jets (because it’s good to root against all NY teams). The Eagles see below

Hockey – The Philadelphia Flyers. They seem always to be the dirtiest bunch of players. This colored my feelings for all Philly teams. The Canadiens – a bit like the Yankees in baseball though they aren’t quite as obnoxious to me.

Basketball – Don’t really care. If I happened to watch I’d root against NY or Philly on inertia.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sports-villains/565071/40 "2010-12-23T03:39:31Z")

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> [@soulmurk](#):
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> Sidney Crosby – I probably wouldn’t mind him so much if I didn’t have to hear about him all the freaking time. Also, his mustache is pathetic.

Agreed on all counts. Not a big fan, especially with his habit of diving and the fact that he punched another player in the crotch and his jumping of another player off the faceoff circle. All the hype just adds to it. If you see an NHL commercial, nine times out of ten it’s got “the next one.” I realize that the NHL achieved the biggest national spotlight with Wayne Gretzky, but stop trying to manufacture another one.

He doesn’t play any more, but I have to mention the great **Patrick Roy**. Credit where credit is due, he was an amazing goalie. Flat out stole games and possessed an almost unshakeable confidence. That said, he was a colossal dick and nearly as hateable as Claude Lemieux. One of my happiest hockey moments was when he failed at his famous “Statue of Liberty” puck raise in the conference finals against Detroit.

And of course, Chris Pronger. Yeah Avery is a douche and Ovechkin is dirty and Crosby is a whiner. Chris Pronger is all of those things. He grabbed pucks after Chicago victories in last years stanley cup finals. He is probably the dirtiest players in the NHL, and he’s a whiner on top. I’ve seen him cross check a player in the back _repeatedly_, finally got called on it, and then cried to the damn ref and swore his way to the box. And another of my favorite moments came when he tried to take Yzerman out at the knees, missed, slammed into the boards knee first, and went out with a knee injury for the rest of that playoff series.

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