# Spot The Mistake (Daily Mail)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 16, 2008, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106 "2008-06-16T15:09:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/21 "2008-06-16T20:18:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Balance]  
Ooh, ooh! I spotted the mistake! It was _reading the Daily Mail_!

😃  
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At least it’s only our second highest circulation paper. Thank goodness the highest selling is The Sun! :smack:

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/22 "2008-06-16T20:45:07Z")

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[QUOTE=casdave]  
All I actually learned is that a double decker bus weighs around 7 tons, would that be loaded or unloaded then?  
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An African or European bus?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/23 "2008-06-16T20:53:45Z")

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[QUOTE=neutron star]  
You don’t cut pot.  
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Yeah but you can cut hash.

Now _that’s_ something **Lobby** needn’t know, and you don’t need to know how I know. 😉

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/24 "2008-06-16T20:53:51Z")

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[QUOTE=neutron star]  
Heroin comes from morphine, which comes from the pods of the common poppy flower. Pot comes from pot plants. This is _really_ common knowledge. Even people who don’t use drugs generally already know this from drug education classes, not to mention history classes that mentioned the [Opium Wars](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_war) between England and China.  
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I think it’s naive to assume everyone should know this. I don’t.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/25 "2008-06-16T20:57:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Lobsang]  
I think it’s naive to assume everyone should know this. I don’t.  
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Exactly. My drug education classes were heavily influenced by the ‘just say no’ idiocy. And not all history curriculums get anywhere near the Opium Wars - the English system is thoroughly focussed on other things.

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**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/26 "2008-06-16T20:59:47Z")

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A while ago, the Mail ran [this](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1003521/Sickening--Anne-Diamonds-chilling-verdict-age-rated-violent-video-games.html) story (now corrected).

[This](http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_04/diamondDM2703_228x378.jpg) was the original image (as proof, look at the URL) (!)

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/27 "2008-06-16T21:05:35Z")

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[QUOTE=GorillaMan]  
Exactly. My drug education classes were heavily influenced by the ‘just say no’ idiocy. And not all history curriculums get anywhere near the Opium Wars - the English system is thoroughly focussed on other things.  
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So I learned about a war England fought in an American public high school history class, but people in England don’t? 😕

That’s kind of weird.

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**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/28 "2008-06-16T21:09:16Z")

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Yeah, there’s all sorts of important stuff that never gets taught in history classes in Britain. The Golden Revolution is hardly ever mentioned. We spent a whole year talking about crop rotation and the agricultural revolution!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/29 "2008-06-16T21:10:31Z")

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Well, honestly the Brits don’t come off too well in the Opium Wars. Something about “forcing another country to accept your imported opium” or something like that. I can see how they would want to gloss over that fine example of The White Man’s Burden. 😃

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/30 "2008-06-16T21:10:35Z")

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[QUOTE=neutron star]  
So I learned about a war England fought in an American public high school history class, but people in England don’t? 😕

That’s kind of weird.  
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In all seriousness: You are correct.

My memory of high-school history consists of vague reccolections of mott and bailey castles, a fat bloke called henry, a pasty woman with red hair… etc..

And then in the final year History was optional (could choose History or Geography) I chose Geography.

I will be the first to admit the UK’s education system pre-college is a big steaming bag of wank.

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/31 "2008-06-16T21:26:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Capt. Ridley’s Shooting Party]  
A while ago, the Mail ran [this](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1003521/Sickening--Anne-Diamonds-chilling-verdict-age-rated-violent-video-games.html) story (now corrected).

[This](http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_04/diamondDM2703_228x378.jpg) was the original image (as proof, look at the URL) (!)  
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The Mail is a regular over at the Photoshop Disasters blog. Here is the best recent effort by their graphics monkeys: [PSD: Photoshop Disasters: Daily Fail: What Is Your Major Malfunction?](http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2008/05/daily-fail-what-is-your-major.html)

Also, the Mail, like most other British papers, completely failed to do any fact-checking and claimed a dog could be seen from [space](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1025176/Meet-Boris-bull-mastiff-large-SPACE.html).

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> It is thought the satellite internet-giant Google uses to take images of earth has a range of between 300-450 miles.

Er, that would be a plane a couple of thousand feet up. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/32 "2008-06-16T21:44:01Z")

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[QUOTE=neutron star]  
So I learned about a war England fought in an American public high school history class, but people in England don’t? 😕

That’s kind of weird.  
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Hey, we fought in a LOT of wars!

The principle of the curriculum isn’t to try and cover every aspect of national history, as this would be a futile exercise. The compulsory curriculum takes kids up to age 14, and with regards to the 18th & 19th centuries is focussed more around the industrial revolution and the slave trade, having a greater immediate and tangible connection to the emergence of the country we now live in. After that age any number of topics can become the fields of study: for me it included the opening up of the American west, and Communist China, both of which I think are still standard options. At this level the principle is very much that research skills and the ability to assess sources are the useful things to take on into adult life.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/33 "2008-06-16T21:54:52Z")

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[QUOTE=jjimm]  
… It’s like saying “how am I supposed to know lambs don’t turn into cows - I’m not a farmer.”  
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Wait … uh … what?

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/34 "2008-06-16T22:55:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Inigo Montoya]  
Wait … uh … what?  
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He’s saying, “How am I supposed to know pot doesn’t turn into heroin - I’m not a drug user,” is equivalent to, “How am I supposed to know lambs don’t turn into cows - I’m not a farmer.”

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/35 "2008-06-16T23:03:00Z")

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Yeah but, how does he … um … _know_ they don’t turn into cows? Is **jjimm** a farmer? I mean, like, if a farmer knew of lambs turning into cows … um … and he … anyone got any Fritos?

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/36 "2008-06-16T23:17:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Inigo Montoya]  
I mean, like, if a farmer knew of lambs turning into cows … um … and he … anyone got any Fritos?  
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Dude. Just because THC can’t turn into an opioid doesn’t mean you should inject bongwater into your eyes.

So, there’s the Daily Fail, the Grauniad, and the Sun. What papers do intelligent Brits read?

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**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/37 "2008-06-16T23:24:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Lobsang]  
I think it’s naive to assume everyone should know this. I don’t.  
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Are you serious? That’s like saying it’s naive to assume that everyone should know that you can’t turn salt into sugar. They’re totally different substances.

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**Author:** ![Martha\_Medea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@Martha\_Medea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martha_Medea)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/38 "2008-06-17T00:01:39Z")

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Not to mention the spelling of “Colombia” as “Columbia”.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/39 "2008-06-17T00:10:05Z")

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[QUOTE=GorillaMan]  
Exactly. My drug education classes were heavily influenced by the ‘just say no’ idiocy. And not all history curriculums get anywhere near the Opium Wars - the English system is thoroughly focussed on other things.  
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Still, I would have guessed poppies -\> opium/morphine/heroin was fairly common knowledge. It certainly shows up in pop culture. And it’s also good to know since [ingesting poppy seed](http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/poppyseed.asp) can trigger positives on drug tests for opiates.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spot-the-mistake-daily-mail/453106/40 "2008-06-17T00:12:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Derleth]  
So, there’s the Daily Fail, the Grauniad, and the Sun. What papers do intelligent Brits read?  
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The _Chicago Reader_, of course. Or at least one of the columns…

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