# Spotting Star Trek actors in other programs

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**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount
**Created:** [August 29, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spotting-star-trek-actors-in-other-programs/794982 "2017-08-29T00:49:02Z")
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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> George Takei was in a 1963 episode of “The Gallant Men”, a one season show about GIs in Italy in World War II (it didn’t help that “Combat!” debuted the same year on the same network).

I absolutely loved that show! The only thing it didn’t have going for it was its Saturday evening time slot (on opposite Jackie Gleason, I think); _ **Combat!** _ was on Tuesday evenings, and was followed by _ **McHale’s Navy** _.

One of my friends that I played Army with back then was a dead ringer for Pvt D’Angelo, and he had a younger brother who was the spitting image of Charles Bronson.

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> Steve, who is about 45 (his sons are 20, 17 and 10) is physically worn out. He turns down an invitation to a costume ball for her, which turns out to be 17. So he suggests that his 17 year old Don escort her.

At that point, weren’t the sons Mike, Rob, and Chip, in that order? (Ernie was adopted later, after Mike had left and Chip was too big to be considered “cute” any longer.)

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> [@terentii](#):
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> At that point, weren’t the sons Mike, Rob, and Chip, in that order? (Ernie was adopted later, after Mike had left and Chip was too big to be considered “cute” any longer.)

Yeah, he must have been thinking of Rob, who was played by _Don_ Grady.

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I may have mentioned this before (here or elsewhere), but Clint Howard (“Balok”) was also a regular on **this show** when he was about four years old:

> **[The Baileys of Balboa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Baileys_of_Balboa)**
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> The Baileys of Balboa is an American sitcom that appeared on CBS in the 1964–1965 season on Thursdays at 9:30pm ET. The series lasted only one 26-episode season. The show was directed by Gary Nelson and Bob Sweeney.
> The show was primarily developed for the network because its president, James T. Aubrey, insisted that Gilligan's Island, which premiered the same season (and which he personally loathed), would have been a better show if it had centered on the exploits of a charter boat captain oper...

In the one episode I watched when I was in fourth grade, Clint was catching more fish than anyone else in the marina, and nobody could figure out why. Turned out he was using peanut butter sandwiches as bait.

As an aside, it’s interesting that John Dehner was “The Commodore” in that series. He’d also play a “Commodore” in the episode of \*\*\*Columbo \*\*\*where Robert Vaughn was \*\*not \*\*the murderer:

> **["Columbo" Last Salute to the Commodore (TV Episode 1976) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074329/)**
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> Last Salute to the Commodore: Directed by Patrick McGoohan. With Peter Falk, Robert Vaughn, Wilfrid Hyde-White, John Dehner. Charlie Clay runs the ship building business of his father-in-law, Commodore Swanson, who turns up murdered; Lt. Columbo is...

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Yeah, he must have been thinking of Rob, who was played by _Don_ Grady.

Yep, that’s it. Rob was played by Don Grady, who later composed the theme song for the Phil Donohue show (and is the only child actor on the show who died, unless you count Meredith McRae who played Sally, Mike’s wife).

Of course when they first introduced Ernie, he is a classmate of Chip. Later when he is adopted, he becomes a few years younger.

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> Sally Kellerman was in a 1963 episode of “My Three Sons” titled “Steve and the Viking” Steve Douglas (Fred MacMurray) gets roped into escorting the daughter of a Danish couple who have an account with Steve’s company. Steve’s qualification is that he is 6’2"-6’3" and the daughter (Kellerman) is 6’2". She proves to very athltic (no, not in bed) with hiking, tennis and saunas so much that Steve, who is about 45 (his sons are 20, 17 and 10) is physically worn out. He turns down an invitation to a costume ball for her, which turns out to be 17. So he suggests that his 17 year old Don escort her. At the time Kellerman was 26, which shows you that “Beverly Hills 90210” and “Gilmore Girls” didn’t invent the practice of women in their late 20s playing high school girls.
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> George Takei was in a 1963 episode of "The Gallant Men", a one season show about GIs in Italy in World War II (it didn't help that "Combat!" debuted the same year on the same network). The episode "One Puka Puka" deals with the regular army hard bitten sergeant (Richard X Slattery) ending up in the largely Nisei 100th infantry battalion (puka is Hawaiian for hole) and with prewar service in Hawaii, Slattery thinks Hawaiian natives are a bit crazy. Takei is one of the soldiers under the command of a Nisei lieutenant named O'Hara who is unorthodox, always talking about comic books and kind of enjoys Slattery's discomfort. But Lt O'Hara's tactics work (they capture a German tank) and when Slattery's unit catches up, his captain finds Slattery happily dancing to Hawaiian music on a tabletop.
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And George Takei was also in an episode of My Three Sons! Steve was working with a female aviator who was doing some kind of Amelia Earhart-like thing, and Takei was a radio operator helping keep in communication with her.

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> If anybody remembers the old Andy Williams show, Prohaska played a talking bear who would keep ringing Andy’s doorbell and beg for cookies, to the point where Andy would explode in a fit of temper.
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> “NO! I’m not going to give you a cookie! Not now! Not ever! NEVER!!!”

… And Jimmy Dean had Rowlf the Dog (Jim Henson and Frank Oz). Andy was on NBC and Jimmy was on ABC.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Np6YfksBXaA/hqdefault.jpg "Adventures in Music 05") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np6YfksBXaA)

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I remember seeing Louise Sorel (“Rayna” in “Requiem for Methuselah”) in a rerun of \*\*\*Rat Patrol \*\*\* many years ago. Looking at her filmography, I see she’s gotten around a lot over the years:

> **[Louise Sorel - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0814798/)**
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> Louise Sorel. Actress: Days of Our Lives. A flashy, aggressive, cold and calculating villainess and eternally hopeless meddler on a number of daytime soap operas, Louise Sorel has given her opulent, show-stopping characters major doses of humor and...

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Mr. Douglas, I have the very thing you need right here on my truck, and it’s a steal for only $149.95. 😃

\*\*Fun Fact: \*\* Pat Buttram was offered his choice of roles on _ **Green Acres** _, and he chose that of Mr Haney (the huckster) hands down.

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Mark Lenard (“Sarek”) and Robert Brown (“Lazarus”) were in _ **Here Come the Brides** _.
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> [http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images/reviews/190/1331929377\_10.jpg](http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images/reviews/190/1331929377_10.jpg)

As was David Soul, who had a small role on _Star Trek_ before going on to greater fame on _Starsky & Hutch_: [David Soul | Memory Alpha | Fandom](http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/David_Soul)

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> As was David Soul, who had a small role on _Star Trek_ before going on to greater fame on _Starsky & Hutch_: [David Soul | Memory Alpha | Fandom](http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/David_Soul)

Damn! I saw that too, but it just didn’t register. Crap! :smack:

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Jonathan Goldsmith, the first redshirt to actually survive (“The Corbomite Maneuver”), became Dos Equis Beer’s Most Interesting Man in the World.

Stay thirsty, my friends.

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Jonathan Goldsmith, the first redshirt to actually survive (“The Corbomite Maneuver”), became Dos Equis Beer’s Most Interesting Man in the World.
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> Stay thirsty, my friends.

Seen in **this clip** as a sweaty, shirtless Shatner walks past him:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OtDS-84hv0E/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AHUBoAC4AOKAgwIABABGE4gXChlMA8=&rs=AOn4CLCkOS-BSI0__hCG_PgkTjRkYxhDPw "The Most Interesting Man on Star Trek TOS") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtDS-84hv0E)

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Saw an episode of “Alfred Hitchcock Presents” called "Memo from Purgatory " which has Walter Koenig and James Caan. Based on an autobiographical story by Harlan Ellison. I suppose if you want another "actors with bad career decisions " also has Tony Musante, who a decade later refused to have “Toma” last as a regular series (he wanted a series of tv movies like “Columbo”). The show was revamped as “Baretta” starring Robert Blake, who made a far worse career decision years later.

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Marianna Hill, who played Dr. Helen Noel (mrowr) in ST:TOS “Dagger of the Mind,” was also in _The Godfather: Part II_ and _High Plains Drifter_.

[![](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FlGizw1yVB4/VNPL4xrfdxI/AAAAAAAA9bI/urVlGf8EQd0/s1600/MariannaHillST_zpsd96e3fdd.jpg) ](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FlGizw1yVB4/VNPL4xrfdxI/AAAAAAAA9bI/urVlGf8EQd0/s1600/MariannaHillST_zpsd96e3fdd.jpg)  
[![](https://www.bonanzaboomers.com/forums/images/photobucket/58a7301b5b89444a862be87be1233a0c.jpeg) ](https://www.bonanzaboomers.com/forums/images/photobucket/58a7301b5b89444a862be87be1233a0c.jpeg)  
[http://www.filmparadiset.se/wp-content/gallery/high-plains-drifter-1973/highplainsdrifter004.png](http://www.filmparadiset.se/wp-content/gallery/high-plains-drifter-1973/highplainsdrifter004.png)

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Marianna Hill, who played Dr. Helen Noel (mrowr) in ST:TOS “Dagger of the Mind,” was also in _The Godfather: Part II_ and _High Plains Drifter_.
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> [https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FlGizw1yVB4/VNPL4xrfdxI/AAAAAAAA9bI/urVlGf8EQd0/s1600/MariannaHillST\_zpsd96e3fdd.jpg](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FlGizw1yVB4/VNPL4xrfdxI/AAAAAAAA9bI/urVlGf8EQd0/s1600/MariannaHillST_zpsd96e3fdd.jpg)  
> [http://www.bonanzaboomers.com/forums/images/photobucket/58a7301b5b89444a862be87be1233a0c.jpeg](http://www.bonanzaboomers.com/forums/images/photobucket/58a7301b5b89444a862be87be1233a0c.jpeg)  
> [http://www.filmparadiset.se/wp-content/gallery/high-plains-drifter-1973/highplainsdrifter004.png](http://www.filmparadiset.se/wp-content/gallery/high-plains-drifter-1973/highplainsdrifter004.png)

As noted in an earlier post ( **ahem** ) she was the town floozy in _ **HPD** _, and Billy Curtis (seen briefly in “Journey to Babel”) was the town dwarf.

[https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/c/c1/Copper\_aliens%2C\_Journey\_to\_Babel.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20081209022906&path-prefix=en](https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/c/c1/Copper_aliens%2C_Journey_to_Babel.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20081209022906&path-prefix=en)

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Ah, missed that. Sorry.

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> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> And George Takei was also in an episode of My Three Sons! Steve was working with a female aviator who was doing some kind of Amelia Earhart-like thing, and Takei was a radio operator helping keep in communication with her.

Takei is also in an episode as the owner of a restaurant. Not Chinese food, but fried chicken and other Southern food. About once a year on “My Three Sons” there was an episode with one of Steve’s fellow engineers played by James Hong (“number three son in several Charlie Chan movies). They go a little heavy with the “honorable grandfather” type sayings. Takei is a 28 year old man expecting to marry Hong’s 17 year old cousin from Hong Kong whose previous 60 year old chosen-by-her-parents” fiance has died. Robbie gets the job of turning a shy, submissive girl into an American which she does causing Takei to say “I was expecting a Chinese Mona Lisa, not a bopper”.

Before becoming an actress in things like “Assignment Earth” Teri Garr was a dance in nine Elvis Presley movies and tv music shows like Shindig, Hullabaloo and Movin’ with Nancy Sinatra.

MeTV has finally gotten to the controversial 6th (and final) season of “77 Sunset Strip”. Facing declining ratings, Jack Webb was hired and he completely revamped the show. Turning an often lighthearted dtetective show into a film noirish and getting rid of every character except Efrem Zimbalist Jr, whose character changes. Not content with that, but in an era where few shows were two parters (and only “Lassie” ever had a three parter), Webb opened the season with a five part episode where William Shatner is one of a cast of thousands.  
I will wait till all are broadcast before watching but I have to say the stand alone episode “White Lie” starring Elizabeth Montgomery as a biracial woman hiding this fact in wealthy Connecticut was quite good. But that may be due to Montgomery.

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> MeTV has finally gotten to the controversial 6th (and final) season of “77 Sunset Strip”. Facing declining ratings, Jack Webb was hired and he completely revamped the show. Turning an often lighthearted dtetective show into a film noirish and getting rid of every character except Efrem Zimbalist Jr, whose character changes. Not content with that, but in an era where few shows were two parters (and only “Lassie” ever had a three parter), Webb opened the season with a five part episode where William Shatner is one of a cast of thousands.  
> I will wait till all are broadcast before watching but I have to say the stand alone episode “White Lie” starring Elizabeth Montgomery as a biracial woman hiding this fact in wealthy Connecticut was quite good. But that may be due to Montgomery.

Jesus Christ. Surely you jest. I read that the show tanked when Kookie became a fellow PI instead of a beatnik and young ladies stopped watching.

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> Takei is also in an episode as the owner of a restaurant. Not Chinese food, but fried chicken and other Southern food. About once a year on “My Three Sons” there was an episode with one of Steve’s fellow engineers played by James Hong ("number three son in several Charlie Chan movies). They go a little heavy with the “honorable grandfather” type sayings.

Takei was also “Akira” at the Happy Sumo Restaurant in the \*\*\*Simpsons \*\*\*episode “One Fish, Two Fish, Blow Fish, Blue Fish.” He was the guy who almost poisoned Homer with fugu.

> **[Akira](https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Akira)**
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> "You can if you believe you can." ―Akira\[src\] "No, you just got pain." ―Akira showing his skill to Homer\[src\] "Technique. Ha ha!" ―Akira telling Homer how he won last year's eating contest\[src\] Akira (あきら) is the sensei of a karate dojo, a waiter at...

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