# Spring Ahead Sun, Mar 12, 2023 @2:00am (Time Change of Clocks) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 10, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980 "2023-03-10T17:28:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/1 "2023-03-10T17:28:57Z")
I’m so very happy to get the extra hour of daylight in the evening. Grilling dinner will begin again. ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/2 "2023-03-10T17:35:08Z")
Cue my semi-annual “standard, daylight, split the difference, pick something else altogether, I don’t care, just pick something and STICK WITH IT” rant about the hassle of the time change. Aside from the number of timepieces in my household that don’t auto-update, it’s a pain to get pets sorted out on their changed meal schedule (and I gather that’s an issue with young children, too), and there’s been credible research suggesting health and safety impacts resulting from the shift-over. It’s just a waste of time and effort, too. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/3 "2023-03-10T17:36:46Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Grilling dinner will begin again. I use a headlight and grill year around. ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/4 "2023-03-10T17:37:07Z")
And I’m sad because my body doesn’t _want_ to change time, and I don’t want it to already be 8 a.m. when I wake up. But I can’t imagine there’s anything new to be said about the whole time change thing. Do me a favor, though, and try to store up your joy so you won’t resent mine in October when we get our hour back. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/5 "2023-03-10T17:45:04Z")
My “routine” varies by more than an hour per day now. I never notice the change, although I’d be happy to do away with it. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/6 "2023-03-10T17:47:25Z")
Me too on all counts. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/7 "2023-03-10T18:11:15Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > > [@What\_Exit](#): > > > > Grilling dinner will begin again. > > **I use a headlight** and grill year around. - I use lit charcoal. No wonder it takes you a year. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/8 "2023-03-10T20:48:42Z")
Haven’t you seen the ads for flashlights that can start fires? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/9 "2023-03-10T20:51:29Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Haven’t you seen the ads for flashlights that can start fires? - Well, yeah, that’s how you light charcoal. You can’t cook directly with 'em. Except for small insects. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/10 "2023-03-11T10:00:43Z")
> [@InternetLegend](#): > > I can’t imagine there’s anything new to be said about the whole time change thing. Back in 2019, there was pretty solid momentum among EU lawmakers toward getting rid of it. A few member countries were less enthusiastic, but real active steps were being taken despite their reluctance. Then the pandemic happened and blew up the program. > **[Whatever happened to the EU plan to ditch the changing of the clocks?](https://www.thelocal.com/20221027/whatever-happened-to-the-eu-plan-to-ditch-the-changing-of-the-clocks)** > > The past weekend marked, once again, the changing of the clocks across Europe - but the EU had actually come up with a plan to end this practice back in 2019. So what happened? Here’s hoping the return to normalcy means this gets resurrected. I was ecstatic at the news back in 2019 and have my fingers crossed again. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/11 "2023-03-11T20:38:01Z")
Ugh, I already have a busy weekend, and now I’ll be losing sleep over it, too? And just when I was finally able to commute in daylight in the mornings. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/12 "2023-03-11T21:46:16Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I already have a busy weekend, and now I’ll be losing sleep over it, too? We’re going to a Reggae Festival at a brewery later tonight. Not looking forward to the morning. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/13 "2023-03-11T22:43:42Z")
I’m on board with getting rid of this time-changing nonsense, which I think is now likely the majority opinion. I am absolutely NOT on board with making Daylight Time the standard, which seems to be the preference among politicians. There’s a reason they call it “Standard Time”, folks – it’s because it’s standard! I’ve made this point before and I believe got some pushback, but here’s my point. It’s called “Standard Time” because on average, within any given time zone, it most closely conforms to actual solar time – what the sun is actually doing up there in the sky in terms of day and night. I’ll give an example with reference to my location. Right now we are just a bit less than halfway to summer solstice, so the days currently are just a bit less than 12 hours long and getting longer. By my calculations solar noon today occurred at precisely 12:19 PM, which is not noon by the clock but close enough. But observe what happens when we switch the clocks later tonight to what I refer to as “Deliberately Wrong Time”. Solar noon tomorrow will now occur at 1:19 PM clock time, which is absurd! It’s an excessive discrepancy between sunrise/sunset cycles and clock time, IMO. Daylight Time is an artificial invention, probably by Satan, that has long outlived any useful purpose it may ever have had. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/14 "2023-03-11T23:06:58Z")
Clocks are an artificial invention. But whatever. Give me more daylight in the evening. Mornings I don’t need it. But no matter what, this thread was just a reminder to people that might have forgot. We’re about to lose our kitchen for a month, so grilling being easier is a huge plus. One of 3 reasons we were waiting until April to start the project. I also prefer not having the contractors leaving doors open as the can’t seem to help themselves in the winter and we have a big birthday party planned for my wife, much harder to do without a kitchen. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/15 "2023-03-12T00:49:01Z")
I’d be more okay with this if I weren’t having a terrible time sleeping right now. It won’t help. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/16 "2023-03-12T01:13:37Z")
And, absurdly, we’re now on “standard time” for well under half of the year. Yes, timekeeping by clocks is somewhat arbitrary to begin with, but most of the things that have “normal times” for them, those times became normal for a reason. Like, if you’re going to have an 8-hour workday, we’ve already established that it works best for that workday to be from 9 AM to 5 PM. So, let’s have that. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2023, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/17 "2023-03-12T04:29:16Z")
Whichever the one is that gives more light at night is the better one. I guess that would be Daylight Saving Time. I don’t care what happens in the morning, I am actually awake and out in the evening. But I really don’t care, the time change has never bothered me one bit. I usually don’t even realize it’s happened. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2023, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/18 "2023-03-12T04:55:07Z")
This article confirms that if and when this back-and-forth time change ceases, the standardization will likely be to Daylight Saving Time. Bah! But what do I know – I’m only a dog. > **[Canadians spring forward this weekend. Find out how a U.S. bill could end the...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/daylight-time-u-s-canada-1.6775291)** > > A bill to make daylight time permanent was reintroduced in the U.S. Senate last week. Does this mean a bright future for Canadians who support keeping daylight time all year? ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2023, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/19 "2023-03-12T05:02:14Z")
Agree completely. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2023, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/20 "2023-03-12T06:29:43Z")
i like it becuase it means its time for the weather to warm up [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980.md?page=2)