# Spring Ahead Sun, Mar 12, 2023 @2:00am (Time Change of Clocks)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 10, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980 "2023-03-10T17:28:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/41 "2023-03-12T17:43:27Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Whichever the one is that gives more light at night is the better one.

That would be neither one, of course.

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**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/42 "2023-03-12T18:20:22Z")

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I had no idea DST began today – dunno how I missed the memo, but apparently I did – so when I woke up this morning I was quite disoriented.

Its now a quarter past 11 and everyone is still asleep. As soon as they all wake up I’ll go around and change all the clocks as well as my watches.

I think I’m the only person who actually likes the system we have. I like the late evening light in the summer and I like having early-ish daylight in the winter. Switching the clocks doesnt really affect me, and my already crappy sleep patterns don’t seem to suffer from the change. It was better before Dubya screwed with it and shortened standard time but this is still exponentially better than the “permanent DST” nonsense that some advocate for.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/43 "2023-03-12T18:42:53Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> > [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> > Whichever the one is that gives more light at night is the better one.
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> That would be neither one, of course.

It stays lighter out later during the spring and summer. That’s better than it getting dark at 4pm.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/44 "2023-03-12T18:45:33Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> It stays lighter out later during the spring and summer.

For reasons that have nothing to do with DST.

If you want more time between when you get off work and sunset, then ask your boss to make your workday 8-4 or 7-3 instead of 9-5. That’s a lot more direct solution to the problem than changing all of the clocks.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/45 "2023-03-12T22:09:53Z")

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I say it every year, twice a year, and I’ll keep saying it. **Standard time year round.**

Knuckleheads here in Washington (state) want year-round Daylight Saving Time. It’s a stupid idea. If you don’t want to change your clocks, just use Standard Time.

Although it would be hilarious watching their reactions when the Sun doesn’t come up until 9 in the morning (and they’ll still have to drive home in the dark).

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/46 "2023-03-13T00:40:26Z")

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I suspect what they want is light in the evening _and_ light in the morning _and_ not to have to change their clocks. So, move to the equator, I guess?

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/47 "2023-03-13T01:01:30Z")

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I wonder how long it would take after we changed to permanent DST for people to be up in arms about the increased number of children hit by cars while waiting for school buses in the dark on winter mornings.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/48 "2023-03-13T01:07:47Z")

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> [@Lancia](#):
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> It was better before Dubya screwed with it

Would it have killed anyone to make the shift on the last Sunday of October, so the kids could have an extra hour of darkness for Trick or Treat?

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**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/49 "2023-03-13T01:56:14Z")

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I am another one who would rather have Standard time all year long. I am very much a morning person, and would rather have it light as early as possible. I suppose those late summer evenings where it’s light until nine are kind of cool, but I’d still rather have more light in the morning than the evening.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/50 "2023-03-13T02:21:22Z")

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I remember that they specifically moved it to the first weekend in November so that children would have more daylight while trick-or-treating

Edited because I’m better at concepts than details

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/51 "2023-03-13T11:46:15Z")

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My gf was grumbling this morning when she went outside in the dark to care for her horses, feed the deer, fill bird feeders, etc.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-ahead-sun-mar-12-2023-2-00am-time-change-of-clocks/980980/52 "2023-03-13T14:19:29Z")

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See also this current thread in FQ:

> [@If no more clock changing why freeze in DAYLIGHT time?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-no-more-clock-changing-why-freeze-in-daylight-time/981105):
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> Once again we have legislation to stop changing the clocks twice a year, which is a good idea from my viewpoint, but all of this seems to be wanting to freeze the time zones in DAYLIGHT SAVINGS time. Why not standard time? I’m assuming there is some sort of motive there, but what? I’d favor standard time because it seems to be more in conformity with “local time” with (very roughly, depending where you are in the time zone) and equal amount of daylight on either side of noon. Also, for a sli…

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