# Springfield, OH immigrants: what's the actual story?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 13, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220 "2024-09-13T17:14:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/61 "2024-09-14T22:09:39Z")

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Bald eagles, which are what nested in the reserve next to our neighborhood, can weigh up to 14 pounds. I don’t think a cat would be a problem.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/62 "2024-09-14T22:16:46Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Trumpers start to think

Already an oxymoron.

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**Author:** ![md-2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@md-2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md-2000)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/63 "2024-09-15T01:46:39Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Bald eagles, which are what nested in the reserve next to our neighborhood, can weigh up to 14 pounds. I don’t think a cat would be a problem.

Also stories of them or other big predator birds carrying off small dogs. 😃

One winter there was in my back yard a snow imprint of a feathered wingspan where a set of rabbit tracks ended. Prsumably a decent sized owl or something took one of those pesky wabbits.

> [@RickJay](#):
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> A Canada goose could quite easily be hunted with a bat or a golf club,

I have herded them out of my yard waving a seven-foot piece of bamboo cane, just waving it fast enough to make swishing noises. However, they are so stupid that it took several back-and-forths across the yard before they figured out the gate was open and that was the way back to the pond.

I won’t really try to mess with a couple with chicks, I suspect they are less tolerant.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/64 "2024-09-15T01:55:15Z")

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> [@md-2000](#):
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> Also stories of them or other big predator birds carrying off small dogs. 😃

That’s why they make coyote/raptor dog vests!

[![](https://preview.redd.it/96x8s43pf6071.jpg?auto=webp&s=e5753d5ede77c3f8cde7670e0960ff942491a991) ](https://preview.redd.it/96x8s43pf6071.jpg?auto=webp&s=e5753d5ede77c3f8cde7670e0960ff942491a991)

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/65 "2024-09-15T02:03:30Z")

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Yeah, that doggo looks happy, not.

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**Author:** ![Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cool)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/66 "2024-09-15T02:09:41Z")

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So it is not immigrants, but rather a pyscho roaming around in these neighborhoods?

ht tps://w ww.you [tube.com/watc](http://tube.com/watc) h?v=JFdY iR Pz-R 0&2

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/67 "2024-09-15T02:13:13Z")

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> [@Cool](#):
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> So it is not immigrants, but rather a pyscho roaming around in these neighborhoods?

Psycho coyotes, more likely.

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> Authorities said they were aware after receiving two reports of dismembered deceased cats in the area. The Houston SPCA Animal cruelty investigators responded.
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> “After an initial investigation, it is believed this was caused by an animal attack, possibly coyotes, as the area where the incident occurred has a very high population of feral cats," the SPCA said.
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> “I don’t think coyotes would do that,” Gordon said.
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> A third report was also filed and Houston SPCA, based on facts gathered, said it believes that was also caused by and animal attack. Gordon said he typically lets his cats roam freely. As for his other two cats, they’ll now spend their days inside.
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> Houston police echoed the Houston SPCA saying they don’t believe the cat deaths are from “human action.” The Houston SPCA encourages the community to file reports on cases of suspected animal cruelty.

[https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/houston-cat-deaths-coyotes/285-c4fabf28-a0dc-49b2-aa85-0d66c2274db0](https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/houston-cat-deaths-coyotes/285-c4fabf28-a0dc-49b2-aa85-0d66c2274db0)

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/68 "2024-09-15T02:15:42Z")

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I’m sure someone will be able to explain what a story from Huston Texas has to do with Springfield Ohio…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/69 "2024-09-15T02:23:26Z")

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100% that was a coyote. We had rumors of a “cat killer” mutilating outdoor cats here in Olympia in 2018 and investigators eventually ruled every single one of them the result of predators.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/70 "2024-09-15T02:38:34Z")

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> [@Cool](#):
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> So it is not immigrants, but rather a pyscho roaming around in these neighborhoods?

[Moderating]  
A post about coyote attacks in Houston has nothing whatsoever to do with immigrants in Springfield, OH. I see no reason why you would post this other than to troll. This is an official Warning.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/71 "2024-09-15T04:30:58Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> It’s not clear to me at all whether the body cam footage was what spawned these rumors, or whether once the rumors were going around someone dug up the closest thing to evidence that they could find.

I found it. Apparently there is a parody news Instagram channel, Fake News Network, that took the arrest video from three incident in Canton and labeled it as a Haitian woman in Springfield.

> **[Fact check: Ohio woman accused of eating cat is from Canton, not from...](https://www.cantonrep.com/story/news/politics/2024/09/10/canton-woman-accused-of-eating-cat-not-haitian-from-springfield-ohio/75157976007/)**
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> The ongoing court case of a Canton woman accused of eating cat has mistakenly become a part of online presidential campaign chatter.

I have not found out who is behind this Instagram channel or their motives.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/72 "2024-09-15T12:38:45Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> A Canada goose could quite easily be hunted with a bat or a golf club, or your bare hands for that matter. (They can’t break your arm with their wings, contrary to the urban tale. Birds are very light and cannot hit you with that much force.)

Birds might be light in weight but their flight muscles have a lot of strength, if they hit you with their wings it’s going to hurt. And they bite, that’s gonna hurt, too.

Swans are capable of breaking human bones. They’re bigger and stronger than geese.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/73 "2024-09-15T13:43:36Z")

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TMZ has tracked down the story behind the photo of the guy carrying two geese.

1 they were roadkill.

2 there is nothing wrong in Ohio law in picking up roadkill geese; no permit required.

3 there is no evidence that the guy was planning on eating them.

4 the guy was not a Haitian immigrant

5 it didn’t happen in Springfield, but in Columbus, 40 miles away from Springfield. .

> **[Ohio Wildlife Officials Give Context for Photo of Man Holding 2 Geese](https://amp.tmz.com/2024/09/13/ohio-wildlife-officials-give-context-man-geese-picture/)**
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> A viral pic of an Ohio guy lugging around 2 geese is blowing up after Donald Trump’s bizarre pet-munching Haitian immigrant claims ... but we're told the photo’s just being twisted to fit the former prez's narrative, and what's actually going on is...

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/74 "2024-09-15T13:54:23Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> 2 there is nothing wrong in Ohio law in picking up roadkill geese; no permit required.

In fact it qualifies you for a cabinet post.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/75 "2024-09-15T14:13:36Z")

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I do hope that the Simpsons open their season with a show that riffs on this entire sorry episode. Harry Shearer has already shown the way.

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**Author:** ![md-2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@md-2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md-2000)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/76 "2024-09-15T15:51:04Z")

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If there’s a psycho dismembering cats… ? Isn’t that how serial killers get their start, killing the neighbourhood pets?

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/77 "2024-09-15T15:52:10Z")

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> [@md-2000](#):
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> If there’s a psycho dismembering cats… ?

Even if there is…it **isn’t** a Haitian immigrant, and it’s not in Springfield.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/78 "2024-09-15T15:56:48Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I do hope that the Simpsons open their season with a show that riffs on this entire sorry episode. Harry Shearer has already shown the way.

In a way, they already did:

> **[Much Apu About Nothing](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Much_Apu_About_Nothing)**
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> "Much Apu About Nothing" is the twenty-third episode of the seventh season of the American animated television series The Simpsons. It originally aired on the Fox network in the United States on May 5, 1996. In the episode, a referendum is placed on the ballot that will require all illegal immigrants in Springfield to be deported. After learning that Apu will be deported if the measure passes, Homer helps him prepare for a United States citizenship test so that he can become a legal citizen.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/79 "2024-09-15T17:04:20Z")

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The New York Post breathlessly reported that a Haitian immigrant had a (gasp!) fender-bender in Springfield.  
Their version:

> **[Exclusive | Post witnesses Haitian motorist making illegal turn in...](https://nypost.com/2024/09/13/us-news/haitian-driver-makes-illegal-turn-in-springfield-oh-smashes-into-moms-truck-with-autistic-daughter-in-back/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_source=twitter)**
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> “The Haitians just don’t know our laws. They are causing accidents all the time. They just need to learn the laws of the road, they need schooling,” the mom told The Post.

> **Post witnesses Haitian motorist making illegal turn in Springfield, Ohio, smashes into mom driving with autistic daughter**

The guy tried to turn right from the left lane, evidently not noticing the other vehicle in his blind spot.

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> The Haitian driver, who remained at the scene, told The Post he was licensed and was driving to his job at Amazon. He said he had lived in the US for three years.
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> “I went to turn, there was an accident and that’s it. Why are you asking me questions?” he said.
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> Fortunately, Stultz and her young daughter were unhurt.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springfield-oh-immigrants-whats-the-actual-story/1007220/80 "2024-09-15T17:14:00Z")

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Fortunately, native-born Americans _never_ have minor traffic accidents. (Sarcasm, if that wasn’t obvious.)

And what does it matter that the car that was hit contained the driver’s seven-year-old autistic daughter? Were there signs and lights all over the car that he failed to see?

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