Springsteen and Super Bowl halftime.

To me, this show was just a kind of live promotional music video for the upcoming tour - it was barely a taste. Arguably, they should play the Super Bowl at halftime of a Springsteen concert next time to get the proportions right.

I was raised in the town next door to Freehold NJ, which shares a HS District with Freehold. Best friend’s older brother (much older to us at the time) was in the same class as Bruce. Bruce and I share a birthday. My first summer of work as a junior high school kid spent commuting to the songs of Born to Run on WNEW before Time/Newsweek. Been to countless shows. Waited overnight for tickets back in the day, for the River tour, with a total stranger, some guy who called me up on my college radio show and said he heard tickets were going on sale (unannounced!) tomorrow morning - I got off air 1AM, I told him come over and let’s go be first in line. He did, and we were. Got laid the first umpteen times during that run at the old Capital Center. I hear somgs with place names and they are songs about home - you hear Born to Run as an anthem, I remember Route 9 as a local road, and the Palace as that place we used to go to ride the rides endlessly on a roll of tickets we got for free because my father must have done some work for the guy that owned it.

Most of the time in my car these days, Sirius is tuned to E Street Radio, so I have had a chance to hear a lot of concerts in the last year or so. so many different styles, even for the same songs over the years. So much growth, even starting from a fantastic foundation, as an artist. Never a dull moment, although I confess surprise to learn that not every single show has been a 3.5-4 hour affair with no intermission. some of them are barely 3 hours!

As someone mentioned upthread, Springsteen’s main heritage is thru Woody Guthrie and Bob Dylan. Even his rock socks are folk songs at best. I really believe that 100 years from now, his songs will be remembered and studied for their reflection of what they said about individuals and America in his time. None of the 3 have great voices, but they do represent American music and the American spirit in its glory and grit at its best

My favorite show I have heard? There was a benefit at Count Basie Theater once, not so many years ago I think (another place my father did some work for many years after the Palace, he used to have a shop around the corner from there). I happened to be on a long drive from San Jose to halfway past the middle of nowhere in the Central Valley where I live now, when Bruce introduced the beginning of the show saying 2 minutes ago he told the band they were not going to do the show they planned, but since this place was special to him, and he had the idea to do something they never did before and they will almost certainly never do again.

My ears perked up.

The band then ripped into an unprecedented (and as far as I know never repeated) performance of both Born to Run and Darkness on the Edge of Town like no others.

Not the songs.

The albums.

In order.

No filler, no breaks (except the intermission between the albums, presumably some money was raised then).

If I remember right, no encore either.

Highly recommended if you can find it!

What did I think of yesterday’s performance?

Voice didn’t bother me, it is how it is, and that is how it has always been.

My girlfriend, who has none of the background listed above, has learned to listen along, and really enjoys all the versions of 10th Avenue Freezeout we hear on the Sirius concerts. From the first note, I recognized the song of course and told her it was her favorite song. It took her a bit to catch on but then she squealed like a schoolgirl, and it took me back to those Cap Center shows so long ago for just a second. You can’t put a price on that!

But the aging of everyone, so apparent on the large HD screen, reflected a little bit more mortality then I felt like seeing just then and there. Just now, my Pandora station played Complete Control by The Clash, and I was reminded of another songwriter I would compare more favorably with Springsteen than Segar - Joe Strummer.

Both are incisive politically, far more then you might expect from their upbringing. Willing to experiment with musical styles regardless of risk to the fan base. I recently saw a couple of documentaries about Strummer via netflix. More of a tortured soul then Springsteen and died young (but not from abuse and partying, apparently from an undiagnosed congenital heart issue). Both struck me as extremely contented men in their 50s still doing some of their best work, even though as young men they were, well, let’s say, less then content, and extremely angry. The power of Darkness as an album in its anger and fury at personal angst - Ian Curtis, Trent Reznor, and the like have nothing on Bruce - been there, done that, came out alive and thriving and so can you, and that is the overall theme and power of the music. Right there for all to see at halftime in the Super Bowl.

But to be fair, our host, who was more demographically aligned with Jennifer Hudson, wept at her Star Spangled Banner performance (did I mention I was born in Baltimore where that song was written, and that it is not a hymn but more of a hubristic boast?) but slept through the Boss. She is competing a move though, she needed the rest, and all was left were the couches and the TV.

I don’t pretend Springsteen is pop music for everyone - it continues to amaze me how something so local at its heart to me is experienced by so many from other places, to be frank - but when the history of American music is written, there will be a chapter for Bruce Springsteen when everyone else from our era is forgotten. Not because the music is a best seller (it is not always so) but because it speaks to us in some quintessentially American way.

2005 was Paul McCartney. 2006 was the Rolling Stones. 2007 was Prince, 2008 was Tom Petty, and you know who was on two nights ago. I’d agree that the weakest of the last five was the Rolling Stones. There was U2 in 2002 (another good show.) Heck, there was Michael Jackson in 1993 and Diana Ross in 1996 so it’s not like single-artist shows are unknown.

Anyway, I’d take any one of the shows in the last five years over Janet Jackson/Justin Timberlake/P. Diddy/Nelly/Kid Rock (Super Bowl XXXVIII), Shania Twain/No Doubt/Sting (Super Bowl XXXVII), Aerosmith/'N Sync/Britney Spears/Nelly/Mary J. Blige/Tremors & The Earthquake Horns (Super Bowl XXXV), Phil Collins/Christina Aguilera/Enrique Iglesias/Toni Braxton (Super Bowl XXXIV), Big Bad Voodoo Daddy/Stevie Wonder/Gloria Estefan (Super Bowl XXXIII), Boyz II Men/Smokey Robinson/Queen Latifah/Martha Reeves/The Temptations (Super Bowl XXXII). Some of those artists would be fine as a 12-minute solo performance, but I don’t like the quick-cutting composite shows. And let’s not get started on crap like Up With People, a “It’s a Small World” card stunt, an Elvis impersonator, or an Indiana Jones-themed show. I could get behind the return of marching bands.

Maybe the OP was referring to Pete Seeger? Didn’t the Boss perform with him at the inauguration?

How do you know his wife is crazy?

runs away

This thread inspired me to go to YouTube and check it out.
Not a Springsteen fan, but that was a really enjoyable show!

Too damn funny. Same conversation was going on in my house!

Yeah, I’ve been proven to have no sense of truly good music, and I just like what sounds good to me. The River is right up there on my desert island list. But I agree with you on Tunnel of Love also. Especially since he included that rip-off of “You’ll Accomp’ny Me”.
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Oh yeah - re: the River. Thought it would have been a fantastic single album, but was a mediocre double. I’d been aware of him since album #1, huge fan since album #2. The 1st 3 came out one per year. Then it was 2-3 years before Darkness. Had been waiting 2 more years for the next album by one of my faves, and bought River the day it came out. What can I say - I was disappointed. Had seen him several times over the preceding couple of years, and never again thereafter.

Thought Nebraska had a lot going for it, especially as my band was working with a 4-track at the time. But then Born In was when he became popular. Stadium anthem sell-out.

Not sure how many bootlegs I had at the time. Was REALLY looking forward to seeing what he came out with live. That was the final nail in the coffin for me. Until, as I said, The SeEger Sessions.

Seems I have quite a history of liking bands’ early stuff, and then losing interest as they get popular. Off the top of my head:

Elvis Costello - bought everything through Punch the Clock
Tom Petty - first 3 albums
Rush - Farewell to Kings was the end of the good stuff
Queen - lost interest with News of the World
John Hiatt - Slug Line through Warming Up to the Iceage
The Clash - There was an album named Sandinista?
Prince - same as Bruce, 1999 would have been a sweet single album. In fact, I taped a version simply cutting every song down to 3-4 minutes, which IMO was vastly superior to the studio release.

That sounds incredible! Wow.

Turns out that was a lip-synch. They said there are too many factors in a live show to take the risk–um, isn’t that the point of a live performance??

I respect all of Springsteen’s music, but I am a big fan of overblown orchestral rock so I will always tend toward Born to Run/Darkness/The River as my favorites. I bought his albums through Tunnel of Love and then resumed with The Rising, Seeger Sessions, and Magic, which was touted as a return to his rock days. Not quite, but I like it for what it is. The ones in between I get copies of via my father but I don’t listen to them too much (e.g., Tom Joad). He’ll be sending me a copy of “Working on a Dream”.

Am I alone in think that the older Little Steven gets the more he looks like Sam Kinison?

It was nice to see that Clarence got to keep his outfit from Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure.

and I could have gone my whole life without ever having seen the Boss’s crotch flying at me in HD. Thank God it was not part of their 3-D promotion!

Yes. Just… yes.

And I loved reading your history with his music.

The Stones where a joke. Worst ever half time show I have seen. Bruce did good, no lip syncing. Tom Petty did good last year.

Yeah I noticed that too, the Max Weinberg 7 was def. there helping out with the performance…

Not surprised, but the beginning had to be timed to the second. They actually got it wrong - the song was over a good 10-15 seconds before the flyover arrived. I think that was the driving factor on the timing. I don;t think you can really delay 6 planes flying inches apart at 450 MPH or so 1000 feet in the air. Once they are on the way, they are going to get there when they get there, everything else be damned.

I don’t get the big deal over the lip-synch. Faith Hill lip-synched, Whitney and Mariah lip-synched. It was their voice, not someone else’s, and they are all proven singers. Folks acting like Jennifer Hudson jipped them are silly—they didn’t pay to see her. She was simply doing the honors for tradition’s sake.

Actual dialog during the game…

Mrs G: “Is there some reason the guitarist is dressed up as a pirate?”
Me: “It’s because the band is on the 50 yarrrrrrrrrd line.”
Mrs G: throws a nacho at me

Never mind.

I rarely venture into Pit Land, and really don’t think it makes a lot of sense to engage in deep debates or arguments on line, where the odds of changing someone’s mind is pretty low.

Further, I like Springsteen well enough - seen him a couple of times, gotten his CD’s as gifts - but he’s not a deep fave. I also assume that Halftime shows have about a snowball’s chance in hell of being actually excellent - decent songs by a solid act that truly tries to engage a whacked-out Superbowl audience is fine by me.

But I do know music.

All of that is a way of saying: I really have no dog in this hunt, but the premise of the OP is ludicrous and the OP is a twit.

Reading all these posts discussing half time shows… Am I the only one who thought Prince were great? - What an awesome guitarr player…! I didn’t know that.

OP: Springsteen gave us a very entertaining American half time show in a very entertaining game of American football. (I am no Springsteen fan. Or Prince fan. - Come to think of it, not American either.)