# Springsteen. Darlington County. What the $#$% does it mean? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 3, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275 "2013-10-03T17:09:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![maniondl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@maniondl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maniondl)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/1 "2013-10-03T17:09:33Z")
Okay, I’ve been trying to get an answer to this one for years. It’s time to let greater minds than mine take a whack at it. Darlington County is an uptempo rock number off of Born in the USA. It tells the story of the narrator and his friend Wayne and an apparently ill-fated quest for work in South Carolina. Verse 1 - Bruce and Wayne drive 800 miles from New York City to Darlington County SC, looking for work. (Google says it’s 641 miles, but hey, this was before GPS) Verse 2 - Bruce and Wayne hit on girls, pointing out that they have the princely sum of $200 and are prepared to rock all night. The song does not tell you if their efforts were successful. Verse 3 - Bruce hits on a girl and tells her that Wayne has been missing for a week. _Little girl sitting in the window Ain’t seen my buddy in seven days County man tells me the same thing He don’t work and he don’t get paid_ Verse 4 - Much shorter than the previous three. Bruce leaves Darlington County alone (presumably), and on his way out _Driving out of darlington county My eyes seen the glory of the coming of the lord Driving out of darlington county Seen wayne handcuffed to the bumper of a state troopers ford_ Question - So why is seeing Wayne handcuffed to a cruiser “The glory of the coming of the lord”? Wayne went missing, he resurfaces and Springsteen now appears not to give a crap. Why not? Why does he abandon Wayne? Am I overthinking it? Should I seek help? What the hell am I missing?! ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/2 "2013-10-03T17:17:05Z")
I always saw verse 3 meaning Wayne is doing something illegal- he’s not working and getting a paycheck, but he’s living on something… so it must be criminal. Verse 4: My eyes have seen the glory is another way of saying “holy shit” or “I was stunned to see” or some other exclamation. Wayne got arrested for whatever he was doing. I see Wayne bailed out on Bruce, got into something criminal, and lo and behold got arrested as bruce was heading home (got tired of waiting for Wayne?). ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/3 "2013-10-03T17:42:11Z")
Also, maybe he did give a crap, but realized there wasn’t much he could do about it. After all, who’s crazy enough to mess with the South Carolina State Police? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/4 "2013-10-03T17:49:20Z")
I think it’s pretty clear the girl they picked up was a prostitute. The song says she was standing on a corner when they saw her and the first thing they do is tell her they have $200 and “want to rock all night”. ---
**Author:** ![maniondl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@maniondl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maniondl)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/5 "2013-10-03T17:54:06Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I think it’s pretty clear the girl they picked up was a prostitute. The song says she was standing on a corner when they saw her and the first thing they do is tell her they have $200 and “want to rock all night”. I admit to being a little inexperienced in the prostitutional arts, but do groups of guys usually pick up just one prostitute? Do you get a group rate or something? ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/6 "2013-10-03T18:09:04Z")
> [@maniondl](#): > > I admit to being a little inexperienced in the prostitutional arts, but do groups of guys usually pick up just one prostitute? Do you get a group rate or something? Sadly, Wayne was caught copulating with said Prostitute. Being South Carolina, he was arrested when it was found that they were not relations. Anywho… I always saw it as Bruce knowing Wayne was going to get his kick on. When Wayne disappeared for so long, Bruce worried. Bruce couldn’t wait any longer and had to leave. Seeing Wayne handcuffed to the PoPo car was good, since it meant Wayne was alive. I imagine it was not the first run in with the law for either. I imagine Wayne already scammed his way out or broke free by the time Bruce hit Jersey. ---
**Author:** ![MrSquishy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MrSquishy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrSquishy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/7 "2013-10-03T18:25:37Z")
Regarding “_My eyes seen the glory of the coming of the lord_” it’s not clear to me if all of you are so familar with [The Battle Hymn of the Republic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_Hymn_of_the_Republic) that it’s just going unsaid, or if it’s worth mentioning. ---
**Author:** ![maniondl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@maniondl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maniondl)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/8 "2013-10-03T18:33:55Z")
> [@MrSquishy](#): > > Regarding “_My eyes seen the glory of the coming of the lord_” it’s not clear to me if all of you are so familar with [The Battle Hymn of the Republic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_Hymn_of_the_Republic) that it’s just going unsaid, or if it’s worth mentioning. Assume for the moment that I’m breathtaking naive and/or ill informed. After all, I missed out on what was apparently a blatant prostitute reference. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Pixel\_Dent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@Pixel\_Dent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixel_Dent)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/9 "2013-10-03T18:36:54Z")
> [@MrSquishy](#): > > Regarding “_My eyes seen the glory of the coming of the lord_” it’s not clear to me if all of you are so familar with [The Battle Hymn of the Republic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_Hymn_of_the_Republic) that it’s just going unsaid, or if it’s worth mentioning. Maybe the prostitute was in to role play as a Civil War Re-enactor? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/10 "2013-10-03T19:33:23Z")
Just a speculation but maybe Wayne and the singer are black (and I realize Bruce Springsteen isn’t black but he also didn’t marry a girl named Rosalita). So Wayne and his buddy headed down to South Carolina from New York City to get some work. And when they got there, they partied with some local white girls. The local cops arrested Wayne and his buddy decided to get out of that redneck town and head back home while he still could. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/11 "2013-10-03T19:48:07Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Just a speculation but maybe Wayne and the singer are black (and I realize Bruce Springsteen isn’t black but he also didn’t marry a girl named Rosalita). So Wayne and his buddy headed down to South Carolina from New York City to get some work. And when they got there, they partied with some local white girls. The local cops _arrested_ Wayne and his buddy decided to get out of that redneck town and head back home while he still could. Hopefully arrested, as your version **could** put a decidedly more macabre spin on Wayne being handcuffed to a police cruiser’s bumper. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/12 "2013-10-03T22:24:33Z")
> [@Pixel\_Dent](#): > > Maybe the prostitute was in to role play as a Civil War Re-enactor? Or she looked like John Brown? ---
**Author:** ![maniondl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@maniondl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maniondl)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/13 "2013-10-03T22:27:26Z")
> [@Pixel\_Dent](#): > > Maybe the prostitute was in to role play as a Civil War Re-enactor? So the prostitute was there to role play in the role of a role player? My mind has just been blown. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/14 "2013-10-04T16:21:33Z")
> [@maniondl](#): > > Question - So why is seeing Wayne handcuffed to a cruiser “The glory of the coming of the lord”? Because Wayne is a layabout and can be a bit of a dick, and Bruce thinks it’s funny that he finally got his comeuppance. > [@maniondl](#): > > Wayne went missing, he resurfaces and Springsteen now appears not to give a crap. Why not? Why does he abandon Wayne? What the hell can he do? One of his casual friends got arrested, and Bruce knows him well enough to know that he probably deserved it. Bruce is out cruising with his new girl, or maybe due back in New York. Wayne can fend for himself. Maybe his union uncle can help him out–probably not for the first time. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/15 "2013-10-04T17:00:02Z")
Imo, it’s a ‘good times’ toon about two naive young guys on a road trip looking for girls and work. Arriving in Darlington, they see themselves as New York big spending, wild guys rolling into town. The first “little girl” may be a prostitute but I think she’s just a local - and a device through which we learn about the guys bravado and naivety. The two guys just want to have a little fun with a local girl/s. I’d guess the second “little girl” is the same woman who Bruce now bumps into a week later. Somehow he and Wayne got split up. As they know each other, Bruce finds it easier to persuade her to come on the road trip. As Bruce leaves with his new girl, they catch sight of Wayne who has presumably run out of money and resorted to crime. Maybe you could even think of it as a prequel to Thunder Road … ---
**Author:** ![SirRay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@SirRay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirRay)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/16 "2013-10-04T18:17:54Z")
I wonder if Bruce still plays this song in concerts, with the “World Trade Center” pick-up line his song’s character uses on the girl? ---
**Author:** ![MrSquishy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MrSquishy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrSquishy)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/17 "2013-10-04T18:22:15Z")
> [@SirRay](#): > > I wonder if Bruce still plays this song in concerts, with the “World Trade Center” pick-up line his song’s character uses on the girl? The Boss doesn’t exactly shy away from 9/11 subject matter. [The Rising](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rising_(album)) ---
**Author:** ![Noel\_Prosequi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b19c9b/32.png) [@Noel\_Prosequi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noel_Prosequi)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/18 "2013-10-05T23:48:32Z")
I saw him do it in March of this year, and according to his set lists, he most recently did it in Rio on September 21. I can’t recall if he modified the lyrics, though. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/19 "2013-10-06T09:19:58Z")
he just mouths ‘9/11’ instead and leaves it at that. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275/20 "2013-10-06T10:50:01Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > Imo, it’s a ‘good times’ toon about two naive young guys on a road trip looking for girls and work. Arriving in Darlington, they see themselves as New York big spending, wild guys rolling into town. > The first “little girl” may be a prostitute but I think she’s just a local - and a device through which we learn about the guys bravado and naivety. The two guys just want to have a little fun with a local girl/s. > I’d guess the second “little girl” is the same woman who Bruce now bumps into a week later. Somehow he and Wayne got split up. As they know each other, Bruce finds it easier to persuade her to come on the road trip. As Bruce leaves with his new girl, they catch sight of Wayne who has presumably run out of money and resorted to crime. > Maybe you could even think of it as a prequel to Thunder Road … Yeah, that’s pretty much my interpretation. In many of the small towns I’m familiar with, the windowsills of stores placed in corners are popular hangup spots. For my age group it used to be the old Post Office, which later became a candy store, but now it’s a bank with a distinct lack of windowsills - I’m reasonably sure none of us were prostitutes and also that many would have been happy to leave with some guys who had money to spend. And the people hanging up in windowsills are the ones too young for the junior clubs: little girl indeed, even if many already have curves. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springsteen-darlington-county-what-the-does-it-mean/670275.md?page=2)