# Springtime wedding for Mary Kay and Vili

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springtime-wedding-for-mary-kay-and-vili/290094>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 14, 2005, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springtime-wedding-for-mary-kay-and-vili/290094 "2005-02-14T22:53:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2005, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springtime-wedding-for-mary-kay-and-vili/290094/61 "2005-02-16T15:57:44Z")

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> [@Winnie](#):
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> I can’t find this! Where are the registry comments?

I think they removed it, since the comments were mostly:

“Hey, baby, I’m 14, wanna come over and teach me about the birds and the bees?”

or

“u sik fuk u r a pedafowl n u eat shit!!!”

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2005, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springtime-wedding-for-mary-kay-and-vili/290094/62 "2005-02-16T16:29:07Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Hmmm…her registries keep changing-maybe it’s a hoax?

It’s possible. As I alluded to in the OP, it’s really easy to spoof and/or forge a wedding registry. I would walk into almost any large department store and register as [just an example] one of the Bush’s daughters with a groom’s name of one of the Kennedy boys. Given that this storey was big on Valentine’s Day, it’s possible it might be a joke.  
The news articles on the web all seem to be quoting each other. No new news since the original article with only the “friend” and the registry. [One example article is here](http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002180107_webwedding14.html), the last two paragraphs discuss another similar case resulting in marriage. WTF are these people thinking?

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springtime-wedding-for-mary-kay-and-vili/290094/63 "2005-02-16T23:45:35Z")

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> [@El Zagna](#):
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> Cite? Cite for what? How I \*feel \* about some laws? My \*impression \* of the consequences of the laws?
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> How about I use the example of my first time? I was only a couple of years older than Vili and probably not nearly as mature physically or emotionally. I was in Australia on a tour with my older brother (by two years) and older cousin (by three years), and the one thing we wanted to do on this trip was get laid. The great museums and history - yeah, whatever. It all came together in a brothel Innsbruk, Austria, and the prostitute I got was probably LeTourneau’s age at the time.
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> Was I traumatized by the experience? Absolutely not. Have I ever regretted the experience? Absolutely not. Can I possibly twist the experience in my mind to make the woman come out a rapist? Absolutely not. Although it was lousy sex, it was all and all a wonderful experience that I cherish to this day, and I offer my deepest gratitude to the sweet lady wherever she may be.
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> Now would I have been traumatized if this had somehow made it to the papers and TV? Hell stinkin’ yes. Would I be scarred to this day from the humiliation of having this talked about all around town when I was 15? Hell stinkin’ yes. Would I appreciate the busy-bodies coming to me insisting to me that I was victimized? Fuck off.

You still don’t get it, do you? The two situations you describe don’t compare at all. There’s a world of difference between twelve and fifteen and between a prostitute and a teacher.

Vili wasn’t a horny adolescent looking to enjoy himself on a trip. He was a sixth grader who got touched inappropriately by his disgusting amoral shithead teacher. And now he’s a twenty two year old with elementary aged children.

Go read the link I posted. Your “feelings” and “impressions” of these laws are completely wrong. This was not a sweet and wonderful experience nor is it for most children. The consent laws aren’t in place because some people are “busybodies.” They exist to protect children.

Letourneau was not an older woman doing a kid a favor. Like others of her ilk she was a rapist and a sexual predator.

So fuck off yourself. I sincerely hope that if you have children they never get hurt by people like this.

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**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springtime-wedding-for-mary-kay-and-vili/290094/64 "2005-02-17T04:32:01Z")

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El Zagna you PAID for your first time?

That’s just sad ☹

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springtime-wedding-for-mary-kay-and-vili/290094/65 "2005-02-17T09:57:38Z")

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**El Zagna** , what have you done with your two children that were the result of your experience with the prostitute? Has it hurt you to love her while you have been separated from her all these years?

Just not similar situations.

Communities and families trust teachers not to become emotionally and sexually involved with their children. I was a teacher. It is against the ethics of the profession for good reasons. It can and does often do a lot of damage to many people when it happens.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/springtime-wedding-for-mary-kay-and-vili/290094/66 "2005-02-17T10:31:46Z")

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> [@Abbie Carmichael](#):
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> El Zagna you PAID for your first time?
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> That’s just sad ☹

We all do, one way or another. :dubious:

I think it’s not that uncommon a guy experience, although my mate who got himself trapped by an aggressive Times Square hooker seemed thoroughly put off by the whole thing. However, I’ve not heard from him in 20 years plus change, and he may have got over it.

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