# sprint mafia #01 - sign-up / game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 29, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234 "2013-03-29T02:16:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/1 "2013-03-29T02:16:43Z")
the intention is to create a simple, open and fast game. there will be no colour. read and sign-up below and we’ll start as soon as we fill all the spots. **GENERAL RULES** **posting:** Night time strategy in this thread is not permitted; Day time strategy is not permitted outside of this thread; dead players may not post strategy **voting:** you may vote as often as you like, but only the most recent vote is counted; vote in bold/blue using the player’s full name (eg. **vote fubbleskag** ); un-vote in bold/red using the player’s full name (eg. **unvote fubbleskag** ); explicitly un-voting is not required unless you intend to cast no vote at all, as vote changes automatically imply a un-vote of the previous vote. **the lynch:** the player with the most votes at the end of Day will be lynched; in the event of a tie, there will be no lynch; if the number of non-votes, explicit or otherwise, is great than the player with the most votes, there will be no lynch. **night actions:** night actions can be submitted via PM at any time; the most recently submitted valid night action will be used. **questions:** undoubtedly I’ll have overlooked something at some point; feel free to ask any questions in the thread in bold/green or via PM **GAME SETUP** **# of players:** 7 **role mix:** vanilla town (3), town doctor (1), town cop (1), mafia goon (2) **days last:** 48 hours **nights last:** 24 hours **game starts with:** night (including actions) **ROLE PMs** > [@](#): > > **role name** : vanilla town > **special abilities** : none > **win condition** : all mafia are dead > [@](#): > > **role name** : town doctor > **special abilities** : once per night you may visit any living player, including yourself; this player will be protected from dying that night > **win condition** : all mafia are dead > [@](#): > > **role name** : town cop > **special abilities** : once per night you may visit any living player; you will learn that player’s alignment > **win condition** : all mafia are dead > [@](#): > > **role name** : mafia goon > **special abilities** : none > **win condition** : living mafia outnumber living town ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/2 "2013-03-29T02:23:04Z")
/in ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/3 "2013-03-29T02:49:04Z")
I’m in ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/4 "2013-03-29T12:48:11Z")
/In ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/5 "2013-03-29T13:23:26Z")
/in ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/6 "2013-03-29T14:03:05Z")
/in ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/7 "2013-03-29T14:06:43Z")
in ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/8 "2013-03-29T14:11:00Z")
just need one more brave soul ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/9 "2013-03-29T14:56:30Z")
Not signing up, but if I may make a suggestion? Start the game with Day, not with Night. I recommend this for two reasons: First, if you start with Night, then there’s going to be someone who signed up but who never gets to play at all, which is kind of unfair. Second, with this particular setup as it currently stands, Scum is pretty heavily favored (my best calculation is somewhere over 70% chance of victory), but if you started with Day, it’d be more like 52-48. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/10 "2013-03-29T18:27:22Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Not signing up, but if I may make a suggestion? Start the game with Day, not with Night. I recommend this for two reasons: First, if you start with Night, then there’s going to be someone who signed up but who never gets to play at all, which is kind of unfair. Second, with this particular setup as it currently stands, Scum is pretty heavily favored (my best calculation is somewhere over 70% chance of victory), but if you started with Day, it’d be more like 52-48. I’m aware of the chance that one player will not get to play, twas a conscious decision. also, scum needs to outnumber, not equal, town for their wincon. this particular setup balances 50/50 in over 100,000 real life playouts. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/11 "2013-03-29T19:33:43Z")
> [@](#): > > also, scum needs to outnumber, not equal, town for their wincon. Officially, yes, but in practice, no. With a tie being no lynch, once the Scum reach equal numbers, they can just force no lynch during the Day and win the following Night. The only case where it would make a difference would be if the last two players were a Scum and the Doctor, and they entered a stalemate where neither can kill the other. That said, my calculation was based on the assumption of equal skill on both sides. If this exact setup is really that well-tested in real games (where might one find records of this, btw?), then that suggests that real people are actually significantly more adept at playing Town than they are at Scum, an interesting result. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/12 "2013-03-29T21:22:51Z")
well shit. I realize now I botched one of the PMs - the doc can’t save themselves in this setup; thanks for bring this up, **Chronos** \*\*\*\*\* UPDATED ROLE PM ALERT \*\*\*\*\* > [@](#): > > **role name** : town doctor > **special abilities** : once per night you may visit any other living player; this player will be protected from dying that night > **win condition** : all mafia are dead ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/13 "2013-03-29T21:30:51Z")
Oh what the hell In. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/14 "2013-03-29T21:59:50Z")
Damn. I was going to be in. Beaten to it. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/15 "2013-03-30T01:04:29Z")
role PMs sent Night 1 will start at 1PM ET Saturday and last 24 hours ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/16 "2013-03-30T01:39:42Z")
I have my role. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/17 "2013-03-30T05:47:07Z")
As do I. I’ll see y’all on the flip side. ---
**Author:** ![NiceGuyJack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/niceguyjack/32/3069_2.png) [@NiceGuyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NiceGuyJack)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/18 "2013-03-30T06:19:08Z")
Oh no! I guess I’m too late for this one. Will be following the game with interest. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/19 "2013-03-30T12:25:04Z")
sorry **NiceGuyJack** and **ToeJam** - but this game should only take about a week to play out and I’ll probably run another one quite soon if it doesn’t suck. (I’m curious to see how this format translates here, if at all) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234/20 "2013-03-30T13:25:11Z")
My role has rolled in. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sprint-mafia-01-sign-up-game/654234.md?page=2)