# Squatting angel statue

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [May 28, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609 "2017-05-28T18:27:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609/21 "2017-05-30T21:45:31Z")

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Well, like I said, it’s a Rohrschach. For me, it’s mourning, but a kind of sensual mourning, as in a lover for a lover.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609/22 "2017-05-30T21:57:55Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Sorry I’m not seeing it. To me it looks like someone straining to evacuate their bowels (and in a bad position, you wouldn’t want to do that with your feet together). Color me crass if you like, but I wouldn’t be able to have it in my garden, that’s all I would be able to think about.

Yes. Every time I look at it, I consider getting some small rocks to pile up below her butt. But The Wife would Not Be Amused.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609/23 "2017-05-30T22:04:13Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Yes. Every time I look at it, I consider getting some small rocks to pile up below her butt. But The Wife would Not Be Amused.

Get some big, clear quartz crystals. Because, you know, angel poop has to be eldritch.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609/24 "2017-05-30T22:45:05Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Well, like I said, it’s a Rohrschach. For me, it’s mourning, but a kind of sensual mourning, as in a lover for a lover.

Ah, OK. I find it confusing since angels don’t have lovers and don’t mourn. Or poop. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609/25 "2017-05-30T23:31:21Z")

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There are some mythoi and traditions (and lots of fantasy fiction) where angels have lovers. Milton had his angels having sex. (Does Milton count as fantasy fiction?)

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609/26 "2017-05-31T00:42:16Z")

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Clearly this needs to be investigated à la Leopold Bloom in the National Library.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609/27 "2017-05-31T04:57:31Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Yes. Every time I look at it, I consider getting some small rocks to pile up below her butt. But The Wife would Not Be Amused.

I’m so glad you said that! I was beginning to think I was some kind of monster. And I think you should do the little pile of rocks anyway, what’s life without a little agita? Maybe paint them rainbow colors, and turn it into a [commercial for the Squatty Potty](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYWhdLO43Q).

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609/28 "2017-05-31T13:14:40Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> **Snowboarder Bo** needs one of these for his caganer collection.

“Squatting angel” is an unhappy phrase if I ever heard one.

And before I look up caganer, please tell me it’s not a typo for “carganer,” which I first read it as, even before going the photo; “cargando” means “shitting” in Spanish.

ETA: see **Roderick** up thread.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609/29 "2017-05-31T13:27:51Z")

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> [@bobkitty](#):
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> No; the [Toscano page](https://www.designtoscano.com/product/remembrance+and+redemption+angel+statue-+grande+-+ne867229.do?sortby=ourPicks&refType=&from=Search) specifically identifies it as a unique piece.

OMG: I believe that quote on memory and redemption is from the President of Germany after WWII commenting on the Nazi era.

Crass exponentiated.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609/30 "2017-05-31T15:51:23Z")

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> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
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> And before I look up caganer, please tell me it’s not a typo …

No, not a typo. It appears to be of Catalan origin, where their christmas creche scenes often included someone squatting to take a dump. I am not sure why, perhaps to symbolize jesus relieving us of our sins?

> [@gigi](#):
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> Ah, OK. I find it confusing since angels don’t have lovers and don’t mourn. Or poop. 🙂

Obviously you have not seen that Wim Wenders documentary about angels.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609/31 "2017-06-01T18:35:21Z")

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It’s a tough one – if there is an orthodox view of something, how to react to things that are a twisted version of it?

For example, take every movie ever that has represented angels as being dead people. Yeah, I could just shake it off an say it’s just some device they use, but part of me thinks, WRONG! Yeah, someone takes the idea of an angel and then says “what if … this thing that’s not true about angels is true” and then it becomes an object of some fantasy literature. But meanwhile it’s an important part of my religion. Why pick on that? Why not just represent your idea some other way?

Oh well, back to shaking it off.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squatting-angel-statue/787609/32 "2017-06-01T22:30:43Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> No, not a typo. It appears to be of Catalan origin, where their christmas creche scenes often included someone squatting to take a dump. I am not sure why, perhaps to symbolize jesus relieving us of our sins?

Yes, the caganer is featured in Nativity scenes in Spain & Portugal, especially Catalonia. [Here is](http://www.mariaschnabel.com/assets/uploads/2016/09/catalan-pooper.jpg) an example of one such figurine. Recently, the trend is to replace the traditional shepherd-squatting-in-the-field with a celebrity, such as Queen Elizabeth II, President Obama, etc. pooping.

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