# Squee!! American Idol 4 premieres tomorrow! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 17, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242 "2005-01-17T21:27:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/81 "2005-01-20T14:24:15Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > **j** is right. These people have to be told that they can’t sing. Bluntly. And sometimes that doesn’t even work. That’s my theory. I believe that Simon is the nicest, kindest person in the world. Dreams are good, but some people need to be told to change their dreams. Simon provides this service in a manner which leaves no doubt whatsoever – baby, find a new dream! Try business or politics or baseball or something, 'cuz you ain’t a singer. We should all be lucky enough to have a Simon Cowell around at the appropriate times of our lives. ---
**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/82 "2005-01-20T14:30:28Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > So I flicked boondi at him, instead. I forgot to ask: what’s a _boondi_? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/83 "2005-01-20T14:50:28Z")
> [@js\_africanus](#): > > I forgot to ask: what’s a _boondi_? A snack food made with (in this case) chickpea flour that is fried and seasoned. It forms small beads, rather like Kix, that are excellent for flicking at the TV. Dense enough to have some momentum, but light enough not to cause any damage. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/84 "2005-01-20T15:27:53Z")
Anyone else wondering if Scooter Girl will try again this year (preferably sans scooter)? ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/85 "2005-01-20T15:55:12Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > But I did not love MC Squeel’s voice. Not even a little bit. But there’s no denying she’s got a presence. I was on the computer when she started singing and missed her introduction. Not knowing her name, I couldn’t tell if she was a boy or a girl. Not meaning to offend, I just really couldn’t tell. She seems like more of a gimmick promotion than anything. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/86 "2005-01-20T16:16:18Z")
> [@Slacker](#): > > I was on the computer when she started singing and missed her introduction. Not knowing her name, I couldn’t tell if she was a boy or a girl. Not meaning to offend, I just really couldn’t tell. She seems like more of a gimmick promotion than anything. I had the same problem. I thought she was a girl, but then she started talking and I thought boy. And then they put the name up and I thought girl again. My husband, on the other hand, knew she was a girl from the start. I’m obviously clueless. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/87 "2005-01-20T16:21:56Z")
Oh, and I keep forgetting to ask everyone to keep your eye out for someone named “Bree” from Ohio who apparently dresses like a bit of a freak. She’s an acquaintance of my niece and she makes it through the first round. I think she tried out in Cleveland. ---
**Author:** ![AwSnappity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@AwSnappity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AwSnappity)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/88 "2005-01-20T17:31:00Z")
> [@Hal Briston](#): > > Anyone else wondering if Scooter Girl will try again this year (preferably sans scooter)? I thought there was a stipulation in the contract that if you get so far, you can’t come back and audition later. I know Scooter Girl made it past the first couple rounds, into the part where they sing as quartets. She might not be allowed to come back. I’m not sure about this, though. Can anyone confirm this? Later I might jaunt over to the TWOP boards to see if they know. ---
**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/89 "2005-01-20T18:12:06Z")
I think they can’t come back if they make it to the Top 32. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/90 "2005-01-20T18:20:58Z")
> [@Grace](#): > > I think they can’t come back if they make it to the Top 32. They can’t come back if they make it to Hollywood at all. You get one ticket, and after that you’re disqualified permanently. Scooter Girl is persona non grata for life. ---
**Author:** ![Alma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Alma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alma)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/91 "2005-01-20T19:10:14Z")
> [@AwSnappity](#): > > I didn’t think those triplet sisters were overweight in the slightest. I thought they were average-sized, but those terrible dresses accentuated their stomachs. Their faces looked like Barbie, or something. Exactly my sentiments. Why on earth would they wear such unflattering outfits? I bet Simon wouldn’t have even called them fat if they dressed properly. The hairstyles didn’t do them any good either. ---
**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/92 "2005-01-20T19:22:29Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > My husband, on the other hand, knew she was a girl from the start. I’m obviously clueless. I can’t speak for your husband; but for me the boobs were a real clue. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/93 "2005-01-20T19:43:24Z")
I am on edge for Gene Simmons to be judge. The man is known for his tactless commentary, and I just know he’s going to have some gems in New Orleans. Btw, whoever made the comment that Gene doesn’t know about singing. I believe he’s actually classically trained or something, and also has a genius IQ. He’s at least as qualified to judge as Mark McGrath. Frankly, I think the guest judges are just there for comic relief. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/94 "2005-01-20T19:43:27Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > They can’t come back if they make it to Hollywood at all. You get one ticket, and after that you’re disqualified permanently. Scooter Girl is persona non grata for life. How do you know? I mean, are the rules online or something? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/95 "2005-01-20T20:10:25Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Boy that guy with the stage mom dodged a bullet. Did anybody see that reality show a year or so ago, I think it was called Stage Mom. They should have another one with this kid and his mom. That or call Child Welfare. I’m reading TWoP and I’m beginning to think I may have missed something when my cable box wasn’t working for the first10-15 minutes. This wasn’t a mother and son, this was a teacher and her student. She had already auditioned and gotten in and when I didn’t make it, she did everything but light a pyre and through herself on it. Is that right? ---
**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/96 "2005-01-20T20:14:20Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Is that right? Correct. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/97 "2005-01-20T20:59:01Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I’m reading TWoP and I’m beginning to think I may have missed something when my cable box wasn’t working for the first10-15 minutes. This wasn’t a mother and son, this was a teacher and her student. She had already auditioned and gotten in and when I didn’t make it, she did everything but light a pyre and through herself on it. > > Is that right? I was wondering what you were talking about, and thought I missed something. By their mutual attention to each other, I suspected there was something going on between the teacher and the student besides voice lessons. My girlfriend says I’m wrong, she says it’s just a black thing. She also thought the teacher had the histrionics mostly for the benefit of the student. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/98 "2005-01-20T21:12:50Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > I was wondering what you were talking about, and thought I missed something. By their mutual attention to each other, I suspected there was something going on between the teacher and the student besides voice lessons. My girlfriend says I’m wrong, she says it’s just a black thing. She also thought the teacher had the histrionics mostly for the benefit of the student. What kinda black thing is that and why didn’t I get the memo? ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/99 "2005-01-20T21:17:04Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > What kinda black thing is that and why didn’t I get the memo? Looked more like a Mary Kay LeTourneau thing to me… ---
**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242/100 "2005-01-20T21:38:56Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > What kinda black thing is that and why didn’t I get the memo? Memo?! Shit, we WASPs have had a phone tree set up since the '70s! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squee-american-idol-4-premieres-tomorrow/285242.md?page=6)