# Squib? FUCKING SQUIB!?!?!??!!?!?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 23, 2007, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766 "2007-10-23T22:39:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/61 "2007-10-24T02:38:50Z")

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You invent quotes and ideas and put them in my mouth with no basis in anything I’ve said, you then base your drooling blather on said invented statements, and _then_ you imply you’re involved in a persuasive debate?

Have a nice day.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/62 "2007-10-24T02:39:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
Squibb’s a _lovely_ name, and I know for a fact that the sexy sounding ‘Squi’ on the front end makes for easy searching through long, complex documents.  
It’s certainly a cut or two above [Vandium carbonate](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=oAo&q=%22vanadium+carbonate%22&btnG=Search). Who the hell cares about VCO3 anyway?  
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I read it as V(CO)3, that is, vanadium tricarbonyl. Not sure what good that would be either.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/63 "2007-10-24T02:50:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Baffle]  
You invent quotes and ideas and put them in my mouth with no basis in anything I’ve said, you then base your drooling blather on said invented statements, and _then_ you imply you’re involved in a persuasive debate?

Have a nice day.  
[/QUOTE]

It is all right there on the screen douche bag. I invented no quotes and I put no words in your mouth. You have been hoisted by your own petard.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/64 "2007-10-24T02:52:42Z")

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I thought the VCO3 was a rocket of some sort–from the 60s or earlier…and by googling I see I am completely wrong.  
doesn’t matter.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/65 "2007-10-24T02:54:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Fear Itself]  
[Really?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:LocationNiger.svg)  
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[Really.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger)

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/66 "2007-10-24T03:05:54Z")

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Well, VCO3, what can I say? I hope you got your membership in monthly payments, because I am getting a feeling that you will not see the end of those 15 bucks.

(good to have you back, btw)

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/67 "2007-10-24T03:09:04Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
It’s gonna be the sound we make when we meat IRL 😉  
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**lobstermobster** , he’s calling one of you meat, and I don’t know which provides the more disturbing implication.

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/68 "2007-10-24T03:15:52Z")

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[I am really, really sorry for continuing this, other people. It really is taking longer than we thought.]  
Paraphrased quotes. By all means, tell where your interpretations differ from mine.

Me: (paraphrased for context) I think ‘mongo’ is a racial slur." (Post 34)  
You: “Rent the movie Blazing Saddles. Then slap yourself for not having seen it already.” (37)  
Me: Sorry. Didn’t remember that part. (possibly interpreted as an insult:) I don’t memorize movies. Cite for my definition. (Post 39)  
You: HOLY SHIT YOU’RE SO PC TO THE POINT OF ALTERING CLASSICS! (This, by the way, is your invented quote. You asked it as a question, of course, but that doesn’t change the fact that you’re completely misrepresenting my statement.) (Post 40)  
Me: I don’t want to alter classics, and never said as much. (Spelling correction.) I don’t even care if you use these words now. All I said was that other people might, and you should know what other meanings the word has. (Post 42, and probably the one you should pay attention to.)  
You: It is a historical reference, you (possibly intended as an insult:) douchebag. (Post 48)  
Me: You’re (definitely intended as an insult:) retarded. Please see previous post; I already answered this point. I understand why it was used in the movie. That doesn’t make it a good idea to use the word in current public conversation. Really, I’m trying to help you. (It’s okay, I’m used to dealing with paranoid schizophrenics so I know what it’s like to be lashed out at when I’m only trying to help.) (Post 54)  
You: You’re not allowed to call people retarded if you’re educating me on an offensive synonym of the word! (56)  
Me: Sure I am. Implied from post 42: [I can say what I want. And get judged for it. But it doesn’t invalidate the point: that \*some people\* consider the word ‘mongo’ to be offensive. (Admittedly I thought this was obvious based on my previous post #; however, it clearly wasn’t.)] (Post 57)  
You: You’re an idiot!  
Me: Pay attention to what I write! Also, you’re an idiot!

… and it just degenerates from there.

by the way, Niger’s a west African nation that contains a large portion of the Sahara. You’re both right, shut up about it.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/69 "2007-10-24T03:18:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Baffle]  
[I am really, really sorry for continuing this, other people. It really is taking longer than we thought.]  
Paraphrased quotes. By all means, tell where your interpretations differ from mine.

Me: (paraphrased for context) I think ‘mongo’ is a racial slur." (Post 34)  
You: “Rent the movie Blazing Saddles. Then slap yourself for not having seen it already.” (37)  
Me: Sorry. Didn’t remember that part. (possibly interpreted as an insult:) I don’t memorize movies. Cite for my definition. (Post 39)  
You: HOLY SHIT YOU’RE SO PC TO THE POINT OF ALTERING CLASSICS! (This, by the way, is your invented quote. You asked it as a question, of course, but that doesn’t change the fact that you’re completely misrepresenting my statement.) (Post 40)  
Me: I don’t want to alter classics, and never said as much. (Spelling correction.) I don’t even care if you use these words now. All I said was that other people might, and you should know what other meanings the word has. (Post 42, and probably the one you should pay attention to.)  
You: It is a historical reference, you (possibly intended as an insult:) douchebag. (Post 48)  
Me: You’re (definitely intended as an insult:) retarded. Please see previous post; I already answered this point. I understand why it was used in the movie. That doesn’t make it a good idea to use the word in current public conversation. Really, I’m trying to help you. (It’s okay, I’m used to dealing with paranoid schizophrenics so I know what it’s like to be lashed out at when I’m only trying to help.) (Post 54)  
You: You’re not allowed to call people retarded if you’re educating me on an offensive synonym of the word! (56)  
Me: Sure I am. Implied from post 42: [I can say what I want. And get judged for it. But it doesn’t invalidate the point: that _some people_ consider the word ‘mongo’ to be offensive. (Admittedly I thought this was obvious based on my previous post #; however, it clearly wasn’t.)] (Post 57)  
You: You’re an idiot!  
Me: Pay attention to what I write! Also, you’re an idiot!

… and it just degenerates from there.

by the way, Niger’s a west African nation that contains a large portion of the Sahara. You’re both right, shut up about it.  
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TLDR

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/70 "2007-10-24T03:19:37Z")

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Yeah, I figured as much, you troll. I’ll let the rest of the readers of this thread to decide their own opinion, or ignore, as they see fit.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/71 "2007-10-24T03:20:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Czarcasm]  
This is a poll now? Great!

Another vote for fucking retard.  
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I vote for **squib** , in any one of these meanings:

Noun:

1. a broken firecracker in which the powder burns with a fizz without exploding

2. somebody regarded as insignificant or mean-spirited; a paltry fellow ( archaic )

3. – kick: a kickoff in football in which the ball bounces along the ground

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/72 "2007-10-24T03:22:07Z")

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I pick 3. I’d never heard of the 1982 college football squib kick five lateral pass play with the band on the field before this thread.

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**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/73 "2007-10-24T03:27:41Z")

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[QUOTE=lobstermobster]  
how about “ghetto rigging” because I say that all the time. In front of patients. If I’m about to be fired I need a warning.  
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I would strongly suggest changing the term you use to the proper term [jury rigging](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_rig). Although we can probably debate for hours whether a term which describes an area where racial minorities are concentrated is just as bad or not nearly as bad as using an offensive term for racial minorities, it would probably be much, much better to avoid the having to face that question in a professional setting.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/74 "2007-10-24T03:36:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Baffle]  
Yeah, I figured as much, you troll. I’ll let the rest of the readers of this thread to decide their own opinion, or ignore, as they see fit.  
[/QUOTE]

I vote for ignore, as it would make any discussion of Flash Gordon impossible.

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/75 "2007-10-24T03:41:52Z")

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[QUOTE=cochrane]  
I vote for ignore, as it would make any discussion of Flash Gordon impossible.  
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A horrible fate, to be sure.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/76 "2007-10-24T04:51:58Z")

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Seriously, what _does_ one call a native of the planet Mongo?

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/77 "2007-10-24T05:02:52Z")

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[QUOTE=cochrane]  
Seriously, what _does_ one call a native of the planet Mongo?  
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Mongonese clearly.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/78 "2007-10-24T05:35:53Z")

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Mongoose?

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**Author:** ![Rhubarb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@Rhubarb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhubarb)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/79 "2007-10-24T06:51:12Z")

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[QUOTE=danceswithcats]  
Mebbe the evil voices in the radio said squab, and this is an anti-poultry rant. Most likely, the voices in the radio said STFU, but were ignored.  
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I’d like this on a t-shirt;

The voices in my head keep telling me to please STFU.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squib-fucking-squib/423766/80 "2007-10-24T12:54:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Baffle]  
Yeah, I figured as much, you troll. I’ll let the rest of the readers of this thread to decide their own opinion, or ignore, as they see fit.  
[/QUOTE]  
If you are looking for comments from the cheap seats - TLDR, and you are being a PC fuckwit about Mongo, especially when absolutely no one else thought it was a slur but knew it as the movie quote (or if they didn’t know the quote, still didn’t see a slur in the remark).

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