# SSM in Oregon: Next? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 19, 2014, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723 "2014-05-19T11:16:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2014, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723/21 "2014-05-20T19:17:01Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Bonus points if you recognized the Judge’s name from another famous ruling of his. 😉 Dover School! Oh hell yeah. I recognized it immediately. He was already a hero of mine. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723/22 "2014-05-20T19:20:55Z")
Well-spotted. Of note, same lead counsel in both cases too. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723/23 "2014-05-20T19:27:39Z")
I would say I’m pleased as punch, but I’ve never thought punch was anything but surly. Hurrah for Oregon and Pennsylvania. ---
**Author:** ![ctnguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ctnguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctnguy)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723/24 "2014-05-20T19:29:13Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Congratulations Oregon! Now, what’s this about Pennsylvania?? [PA has become no. 19.](http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20140520_U_S__judge_strikes_down_same-sex_marriage_ban_in_Pa_.html) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2014, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723/25 "2014-05-20T19:45:13Z")
I dunno, I think it makes sense to treat schools differently. Many children walk to school, unaccompanied by an adult. Most children going to a church, though, will be accompanied by an adult. It’s thus easier to imagine a child wandering into a dispensary or other place where they shouldn’t be on the way home from school than on the way home from church. The problem I have with “medical marijuana”, as it’s currently implemented, is that it’s got all the same problems as all other herbal medicine. If you want to lower the scheduling on marijuana so it’s easier to experiment with it and find and extract the pharmacologically-useful chemicals, like real medicine, hey, I’m all for that. If you want to make it just plain legal to use recreationally, campaign for that. But bastardized half-measures like “medical marijuana” don’t help anything. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723/26 "2014-05-20T20:11:20Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Bonus points if you recognized the Judge’s name from another famous ruling of his. 😉 Yep, my first thought…the judge that called the defendants in Dover Board of Ed vs Kitzmiller et al intelligent design trial “breathtakingly inane”. A conservative appointee that doesn’t play politics, very refreshing. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723/27 "2014-05-20T20:32:35Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > Unfortunately, the voters in Oregon added an anti-marriage amendment to their state’s constitution in 2004. Same for Ohio. 2004 was the year the GOP got all the Amish to vote. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2014, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723/28 "2014-05-20T21:08:15Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I dunno, I think it makes sense to treat schools differently. Many children walk to school, unaccompanied by an adult. Most children going to a church, though, will be accompanied by an adult. It’s thus easier to imagine a child wandering into a dispensary or other place where they shouldn’t be on the way home from school than on the way home from church. Is this really a serious problem, of children wandering into stores? Why not just shoo them out? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723/29 "2014-05-20T22:21:00Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I dunno, I think it makes sense to treat schools differently. Many children walk to school, unaccompanied by an adult. Most children going to a church, though, will be accompanied by an adult. It’s thus easier to imagine a child wandering into a dispensary or other place where they shouldn’t be on the way home from school than on the way home from church. > > The problem I have with “medical marijuana”, as it’s currently implemented, is that it’s got all the same problems as all other herbal medicine. If you want to lower the scheduling on marijuana so it’s easier to experiment with it and find and extract the pharmacologically-useful chemicals, like real medicine, hey, I’m all for that. If you want to make it just plain legal to use recreationally, campaign for that. But bastardized half-measures like “medical marijuana” don’t help anything. It’s available in capsule form via Rx. Can’t think of the name of the drug. The problem with pot being dispensed as a curative is that it’s pretty much impossible to standardize the dose or potency, since it’s herbal. A ‘wowee zowee’ brownie at one ‘dispensary’ will likely not resemble the same thing sold at another. Advocates want us all to believe that the pot today is harmless, but it’s not your daddy’s toke from back in the 60s; it’s far more potent and can have serious side effects. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723/30 "2014-05-21T03:34:31Z")
> [@ctnguy](#): > > [PA has become no. 19.](http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20140520_U_S__judge_strikes_down_same-sex_marriage_ban_in_Pa_.html) That’s wonderful! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723/31 "2014-05-21T03:44:13Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It’s available in capsule form via Rx. Can’t think of the name of the drug. The problem with pot being dispensed as a curative is that it’s pretty much impossible to standardize the dose or potency, since it’s herbal. A ‘wowee zowee’ brownie at one ‘dispensary’ will likely not resemble the same thing sold at another. Advocates want us all to believe that the pot today is harmless, but it’s not your daddy’s toke from back in the 60s; it’s far more potent and can have serious side effects. The trouble with marinol is that some patients can’t keep a pill down. As for the other points, don’t buy the scare tactics from the prohibitionists. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723/32 "2014-05-21T03:46:45Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > The trouble with marinol is that some patients can’t keep a pill down. As for the other points, don’t buy the scare tactics from the prohibitionists. :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-in-oregon-next/688723.md?page=1)