# SSM opponents threaten SF mayor's life

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 2, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137 "2004-03-02T18:03:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/1 "2004-03-02T18:03:24Z")

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SF mayor [Gavin Newsom](http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/03/030204newsomThreat.htm) is under 24-hour police protection following the receipt of a number of “credible” death threats made after he ordered the issuing of marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

San Francisco of course had a previous mayor, George Moscone, and supervisor, openly gay Harvey Milk, cut down by assassin’s bullets, and anti-gay sentiment played a role in their deaths.

I wonder if George W Bush and the rest of the “compassionate conservatives” who’ve called for “respectful” debate on this issue will condemn these threats.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/2 "2004-03-02T18:10:50Z")

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I’d be curious to know how many of those death threats have Bible verses attached.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/3 "2004-03-02T18:20:44Z")

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Absolutely appalling. The very idea that this sort of action should be punishable by anything more stringent than a court order to stop is just appalling.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/4 "2004-03-02T18:30:28Z")

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Repugnant, but unfortunately not too surprising.

I wonder, can any of the new terrorism laws be used against these yokels? Are death threats considered “terrorism”?

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**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/5 "2004-03-02T18:35:32Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> Repugnant, but unfortunately not too surprising.
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> I wonder, can any of the new terrorism laws be used against these yokels? Are death threats considered “terrorism”?

If they’re not, I don’t know what is…

Not that it would surprise me in the least if some loophole is found that excludes the death threats against Newsom.

Interesting, how Newsom’s actions have quickly brought the hatred and bigotry against gays into sharp relief (well, even sharper than previously). Even Bush isn’t waffling about it anymore.

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/6 "2004-03-02T21:34:15Z")

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No, no, no, no, no.

You just don’t GET it, do you?

When non-American, swarthy-skinned people commit acts of violence against those who do not believe as they do, for religious reasons, this is called “terrorism,” and should be dealt with as harshly as possible.

When “Real Americans” commit acts of violence against _anyone_ for religious reasons (saving the unborn, for example) or cultural reasons (preserving the sacred institution of marriage), then this is a _legitimate act of protest_, and should be treated as such.

Y’dig? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/7 "2004-03-02T22:42:26Z")

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It wouldn’t matter if every conservative in the country denounced the threats, you’ll still piss and moan about it.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/8 "2004-03-02T22:51:52Z")

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> [@SnoopyFan](#):
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> It wouldn’t matter if every conservative in the country denounced the threats, you’ll still piss and moan about it.

Yes, you nasty cow, I would indeed “piss and moan” about **death threats** even if GWB himself denounced them. I would congratulate him for doing so but the **death threats** would still warrant a bit of a “piss and moan.”

My question to you, you icky twat, is why you aren’t? Do you think that **threatening to kill people** who do things you don’t like is an acceptable mode of conduct?

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/9 "2004-03-02T22:52:55Z")

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Images of gays marrying on TV…arousing latent homosexual feelings…must suppress…find outlet for emotions…kill SF Mayor. Ahhh…that’s better.

C’mon guys, everyone knows if it doesn’t wear a head-scarf, it’s not a terrorist.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/10 "2004-03-02T22:56:12Z")

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If every conservative in the country denounced these threats, there wouldn’t be anyone left to make them, would there?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/11 "2004-03-02T23:03:57Z")

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> [@SnoopyFan](#):
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> It wouldn’t matter if every conservative in the country denounced the threats, you’ll still piss and moan about it.

Imagine that. Pissing and moaning about death threats. How trivial can you get?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/12 "2004-03-02T23:17:16Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> My question to you, you icky twat, is why you aren’t? Do you think that **threatening to kill people** who do things you don’t like is an acceptable mode of conduct?

But of course! She has it on the best authority: God says “Smite the wicked”, and what could be more wicked than subverting holy matrimony? Think of the children! If Adam and Steve can get hitched, our nation is doomed! Extremism in the defense of

Oh, sorry, that was Barry Goldwater I was channelling in that last bit. Never mind.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/13 "2004-03-02T23:29:28Z")

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> [@SnoopyFan](#):
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> It wouldn’t matter if every conservative in the country denounced the threats, you’ll still piss and moan about it.

Tell you what, you get every conservative in the country to denounce the threats, and then we’ll see.

You start.

Julie

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/14 "2004-03-02T23:59:13Z")

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I’m still waiting for **SnoopyFan** to tell us whether or not she admits being an anit-gay-marriage bigot when she hugs her gay friends. :dubious:

(spillover from an earlier thread)

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2004, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/15 "2004-03-03T00:19:51Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Yes, **you nasty cow** , I would indeed “piss and moan” […]
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> My question to you, **you icky twat** , is why you aren’t? […]

_emphasis mine_  
Holy shit. That was so fucking funny _and_ so well deserved.

[sub]lol…“icky twat”[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2004, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/16 "2004-03-03T00:21:36Z")

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What would Jesus do with a high-powered rifle?

> [@SnoopyFan](#):
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> It wouldn’t matter if every conservative in the country denounced the threats, you’ll still piss and moan about it.

Fuck off, you ignorant cow.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2004, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/17 "2004-03-03T00:38:32Z")

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Er… I’m hardly a **Snoopyfan** fan, but why “cow”?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2004, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/18 "2004-03-03T00:41:59Z")

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> [@dutchboy208](#):
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> Er… I’m hardly a **Snoopyfan** fan, but why “cow”?

Yeah, seriously, I enjoy a little mud slinging as much as the next guy, but I think that’s going way over the line.

What the hell have cows ever done to any of you to deserve such a comparison?

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lodoen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b3f665/32.png) [@Jeff\_Lodoen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lodoen)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2004, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/19 "2004-03-03T01:31:37Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> But of course! She has it on the best authority: God says “Smite the wicked”, and what could be more wicked than subverting holy matrimony? Think of the children! If Adam and Steve can get hitched, our nation is doomed! Extremism in the defense of
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> Oh, sorry, that was Barry Goldwater I was channelling in that last bit. Never mind.

Barry Goldwater would probably agree with you…

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ssm-opponents-threaten-sf-mayors-life/232137/20 "2004-03-03T02:12:25Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Imagine that. Pissing and moaning about death threats. How trivial can you get?

I know. I could see pissing and moaning about something important, like wearing white after labor day, but it just a death threat for Christ’s sake! You’d think these folks didn’t return Tupperware or something, the way you folks are acting.

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