# St.Georges Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 23, 2008, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517 "2008-04-23T08:10:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/1 "2008-04-23T08:10:36Z")

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Today, April 23rd, is the Patron Saint of Englands Day.

Do I see any flags flying?

Not a fucking one.

It’s got to the stage where Englishmen and women are told that to fly our flag may cause offence to others. Well fuck 'em I say, my flag is gonna be hanging out the window and there are a couple that I can attach to my car.

If “they” want to be offended that’s tough titty

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/2 "2008-04-23T08:25:43Z")

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I never forget St. George’s day, as it is also my wedding anniversary. I cunningly chose a date that would be easy for me to remember. So tonight I will be celebrating in the typically English style of a chinese meal and a bottle of wine.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/3 "2008-04-23T08:27:36Z")

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I don’t think I even _have_ a flag to fly. Why should I? What attribute of the world would _become better_ if I did?

If you want to fly a flag, and it makes you happy, then that’s good, I guess.

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/4 "2008-04-23T08:32:51Z")

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[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers]  
I never forget St. George’s day, as it is also my wedding anniversary. I cunningly chose a date that would be easy for me to remember. So tonight I will be celebrating in the typically English style of a chinese meal and a bottle of wine.  
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You traitor you!!

The only way to celebrate in typical English style is with a kebab

Mangetout: I’m not out to change or better the world, I’m out to fly the flag of my country

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/5 "2008-04-23T08:36:45Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]  
Mangetout: I’m not out to change or better the world, I’m out to fly the flag of my country  
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OK… whatever floats your boat.

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**Author:** ![scareyfaerie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scareyfaerie/32/3135_2.png) [@scareyfaerie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scareyfaerie)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/6 "2008-04-23T08:38:26Z")

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I’m flying the flag!

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/7 "2008-04-23T08:44:00Z")

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chowder,

you could always move to Morley

[“Most patriotic town in England - apparently”](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/7351194.stm)

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/8 "2008-04-23T08:58:11Z")

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[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers]  
chowder,

you could always move to Morley

[“Most patriotic town in England - apparently”](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/7351194.stm)  
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Move to Yorkshire?

Are you mad sir?

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/9 "2008-04-23T09:01:51Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]  
Move to Yorkshire?

Are you mad sir?  
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Well, I am from Yorkshire myself, so I may have a slight bias.

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/10 "2008-04-23T09:08:21Z")

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Yet you support Bolton?

Strange people these Tykes innit?

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/11 "2008-04-23T09:14:40Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]  
Yet you support Bolton?

Strange people these Tykes innit?  
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In a nutshell, I grew up in a Rugby League town so I never had a footie team as a boy, and indeed had no interest in footie. When I moved to Bolton through work, I got into it and chose to support the local side rather than going Man Ure or Liverpool, Arsenal etc.

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/12 "2008-04-23T09:19:06Z")

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OK I forgive you.

On the other hand if you’d decided to support the rags…

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/13 "2008-04-23T10:24:12Z")

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Or you could do as they do in Catalonia: exchange gifts of roses and books.

Hey, that isn’t a half bad idea. _goes and sees what he can find on [http://www.littlesistersbookstore.com/books.asp](http://www.littlesistersbookstore.com/books.asp) for that cute boy in Winnipeg_

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/14 "2008-04-23T10:42:34Z")

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Obligatory [YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAvmLDkAgAM) [videos](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikynTH9oJg8) of Henry V.

And the EU [want to do away](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/23/nmap123.xml) with England.

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**Author:** ![Ponster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponster/32/17081_2.png) [@Ponster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponster)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/15 "2008-04-23T16:47:40Z")

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> It’s got to the stage where Englishmen and women are told that to fly our flag may cause offence to others. Well fuck 'em I say, my flag is gonna be hanging out the window and there are a couple that I can attach to my car.

I respectfully suggest you turn the volume up and listen to [this song](http://youtube.com/watch?v=P5h4PFBuzvw), pay particular attention to the words in the last verse. (the slower loading live version is [here](http://youtube.com/watch?v=Otfj2cix2WI) about 35 seconds in.)

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**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/16 "2008-04-23T22:18:23Z")

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We sang last night at a mass for the feast of St George. It was organised by one of the priests at our parish, who’s English.

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/17 "2008-04-24T00:06:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Cunctator]  
We sang last night at a mass for the feast of St George. It was organised by one of the priests at our parish, who’s English.  
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Did you sing “Karma Chameleon?” How about “Do You Really Want to Hurt Me?”

Ooooooh. _ **St.** _ George.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/18 "2008-04-24T00:09:13Z")

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There was a bit on NPR all about St George’s day today. My heritage is all British (there might be a Huegenot in there somewhere too)–Prostestant Irish, Scots (Highland) and English.

They had a woman on of Pakistani descent who was born in England and said she felt she was English but didn’t feel comfortable celebrating the day because of the “paranoia” out there\*. (?). Also, she said she walks like an English woman does. What in hell does that mean? How do English women walk (I’ve been there–all I’ve seen is bipedal motion). How does it differ from a Pakistani walk?  
😕

And then I drove past my little Midwest town’s post office and there’s a guy out front handing out leaflets with a table that says, “STOP THE BRITISH FOOD RIP OFF”

WTH does that mean? (here in the Midwest, we’re not known for our English immigrants–German, Dutch, and hodgepodge, but not English).  
\*apparently some football hooligans (love that word) have co-opted the flag for nefarious purposes?

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**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/19 "2008-04-24T02:07:38Z")

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[QUOTE=photopat]  
Did you sing “Karma Chameleon?” How about “Do You Really Want to Hurt Me?”  
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We sang the proper mass for the feast day, _Protexisti_, and Palestrina’s _Missa Brevis_.

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**Author:** ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-georges-day/446517/20 "2008-04-24T03:03:17Z")

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Hey, I love flags. I’ll fly the St. George flag here in L.A. if I can find one.

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