# St. John's College

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-johns-college/181694>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 13, 2003, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-johns-college/181694 "2003-06-13T22:37:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-johns-college/181694/21 "2003-06-16T16:02:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Antonius Block \*  
> \*\*There’s also [this one](http://www.sjc.ox.ac.uk/). Slightly more recent ([1555](http://www.sjc.ox.ac.uk/otherinfo/tour/stgiles.html) vs [1511](http://www.joh.cam.ac.uk/)), but at an older University, and on the site of an even older college (St. Bernard) founded in 1437. \*\*

There is just the one, in dear old Oxford. (Tabs keep out!) Best known, right now, as being the alma mater of one Tony Blair.

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**Author:** ![Zenpea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Zenpea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenpea)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-johns-college/181694/22 "2003-06-16T22:34:49Z")

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Hope your St. John’s is better than the one we have here at Cambridge. Trinity keeps trying to wrap it in tinfoil and set it on fire.

-James

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-johns-college/181694/23 "2003-06-16T23:53:55Z")

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OK, **commasense**!

When I do tell my story, it will be accompanied by the disclaimer that people who attended earlier or later, or weren’t on the SF campus, as I was, might not have experienced things as I did. And there’s also the simple fact that you are you and I am me.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2003, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-johns-college/181694/24 "2003-06-17T00:12:18Z")

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> And there’s also the simple fact that you are you and I am me.

Cite? As a former philosophy student, I think it’s debatable.

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**Author:** ![StephenG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@StephenG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StephenG)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2003, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-johns-college/181694/25 "2003-06-17T00:33:09Z")

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Well, since **commasense** started it…

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> you are you and I am me

I am the Walrus!  
Nope, I didn’t go to St. John’s. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Lesbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Lesbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lesbia)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2003, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-johns-college/181694/26 "2003-06-17T01:19:19Z")

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> And there’s also the simple fact that you are you and I am me.

The Johnnie Mantra:

We need to define both “simple” and “fact” before we go any further.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2003, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-johns-college/181694/27 "2003-06-17T01:46:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lesbia \*  
> \*\*The Johnnie Mantra:
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> We need to define both “simple” and “fact” before we go any further. \*\*

But since you’re quoting me, when I said “You are you and I am me”, how are you defining “you”?

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**Author:** ![Lesbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Lesbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lesbia)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2003, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-johns-college/181694/28 "2003-06-17T14:13:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \*  
> \*\*how are you defining “you”? \*\*

Well, Descartes said, . . .

But then Hume said, . . .

And Kant embellished that, suggesting, . . .

But, Nietzsche said that, even if that’s true, we must realize . . .

And that’s pretty much when I threw up my hands and admitted that finding Truth wasn’t gonna happen!

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