# ST:TNG, Encounter at Farpoint makes so much more sense ... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 21, 2015, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tng-encounter-at-farpoint-makes-so-much-more-sense/723065 "2015-06-21T04:56:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tng-encounter-at-farpoint-makes-so-much-more-sense/723065/121 "2015-06-29T00:45:46Z")
The saucer section of the TOS Enterprise had those two triangular shaped grey areas on the bottom, which some folks say are landing legs. (A third leg is hidden by the “neck”.) Yeah, I hear you on the Ent-D saucer. Maybe it should have had tiny warp engines of its own. Or maybe some technobabble about how it could sustain a warp field, just not produce one so the ship could separate and the saucer could go on its merry way while the battle hull turned around and fought…whoever. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tng-encounter-at-farpoint-makes-so-much-more-sense/723065/122 "2015-06-29T00:49:38Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > The saucer section of the TOS Enterprise had those two triangular shaped grey areas on the bottom, which some folks say are landing legs. (A third leg is hidden by the “neck”.) > > Yeah, I hear you on the Ent-D saucer. Maybe it should have had tiny warp engines of its own. Or maybe some technobabble about how it could sustain a warp field, just not produce one so the ship could separate and the saucer could go on its merry way while the battle hull turned around and fought…whoever. You don’t need warp drive to land. The saucer survived a descent to a planet when Troi was driving. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tng-encounter-at-farpoint-makes-so-much-more-sense/723065/123 "2015-06-29T05:05:26Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I dont remember the book but I think it was a Mr. Scott guide to the Enterprise or something. Must have been after one of the many refits in the '80s. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tng-encounter-at-farpoint-makes-so-much-more-sense/723065/124 "2015-06-29T05:06:29Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > You don’t need warp drive to land. The saucer survived a descent to a planet when Troi was driving. This is what’s called “dumb fool luck.” :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tng-encounter-at-farpoint-makes-so-much-more-sense/723065/125 "2015-06-29T06:13:33Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I believe the correct response is: “You cow! A CHAIR could sense great anger!” 😃 > > What was it that Wesley said to Guinan after he boffed that hot young shape-shifter—“When does the feeling go away?” Something like that. :dubious: The most annoying line for me was just every time Data goes into unnecessary detail about something trivial until slapped down by Picard, or occasionally Riker. Every episode had at least one line like that. And people say the dynamic between picard and data was the best part of the show… ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tng-encounter-at-farpoint-makes-so-much-more-sense/723065/126 "2015-06-29T06:52:32Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > The most annoying line for me was just every time Data goes into unnecessary detail about something trivial until slapped down by Picard, or occasionally Riker. > > Every episode had at least one line like that. In Season 1. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tng-encounter-at-farpoint-makes-so-much-more-sense/723065/127 "2015-06-29T07:34:51Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > “When does the feeling go away?” I think Guinan’s reply was: “It never goes away.” Like some alien STD, it never goes away … you just learn to live with it.\* \*My interpretation. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tng-encounter-at-farpoint-makes-so-much-more-sense/723065/128 "2015-07-03T02:25:44Z")
S1, E4: Aside from the actual introduction of the Ferengi, it was a pretty good episode. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tng-encounter-at-farpoint-makes-so-much-more-sense/723065/129 "2015-09-18T17:08:31Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > As I’ve noted here many times before, this is pure BS. Service personnel can and do spend long periods of time away from their families; it’s their job. If they don’t like it, they should have chosen a different career path. (And there never seems to be any shortage of personnel willing to endure the hardship.) > > Husband and wife teams on board, of course. Mandatory birth control for unmarried females, absolutely. Reassignment or retirement for pregnant females, makes perfect sense. If a child is born on board ship during a long mission, drop it and the mother off at a Star Base at the earliest possible opportunity. > > Peaceful, shmeasful. The Galaxy is full of dangers we still know nothing about and aliens that would kill or enslave you at the drop of a hat. Exposing children to that sort of thing is downright criminal, and no one incapable of manning a Battle Station has any business being on board. > **[5 Ways Star Trek's Federation Was An Evil Empire](https://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-star-trek-federation-evil-empire)** > > No matter how bad the movies got, it was the 'Star Trek' television series that showed how evil the Federation really was. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tng-encounter-at-farpoint-makes-so-much-more-sense/723065.md?page=6)