# ST:TOS episode, “What are Little Girls Made Of?” **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [February 21, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414 "2021-02-21T23:52:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/1 "2021-02-21T23:52:24Z")
ST:TOS episode, “What are Little Girls Made Of?” (Oct 1966 air date) I’ve seen this episode before, several times, but don’t recall noticing this before and I’m watching it now. Much is made of the first interracial kiss on TV being when Captain Kirk kissed Lieutenant Uhura in the ST:TOS episode “Plato’s Stepchildren” that aired in Nov 1968, but what about this kiss, lips to lips, about 5 minutes into the WALGMO episode (and two years before the PS episode): [[Album] Interracial kiss on TV, Oct 1966 ![](https://i.imgur.com/6ubukFU.jpeg?fb "Interracial kiss on TV, Oct 1966") ](https://imgur.com/a/5tppla0) Doesn’t this count? They both are heterosexuals, presumably. Okay it’s not a kiss of passion, it’s a kiss between friends — Uhura is wishing Chapel well before the nurse beams down to see her once-fiancé after five years apart. Not passion, but still interracial. That counts, doesn’t it? Not a big deal but I found that interesting. Additionally, and not really the point I wanted to post about but it’s so blatantly obvious I couldn’t believe it when I saw it, but about 35 minutes later Captain Kirk breaks off a stalactite to defend himself with, and it is a big penis: [[Album] The STTOS big white penis ![](https://i.imgur.com/TU3coq2.jpeg?fb "The STTOS big white penis") ](https://imgur.com/a/n8dA2wK) What??? That _had_ to be intentional. Never noticed that before either. Sometimes I can be a little slow. But if I was working with Sherry Jackson, my stalactite might be that big too. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/2 "2021-02-22T00:45:53Z")
Was this really the first (non-platonic\*) inter-racial kiss on television or was it the first kiss between a white actor and Black actress. ISTR that there was an inter-racial kiss on some show but the actor was white and the actress Asian. \*Ironic, given the episode in question. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/3 "2021-02-22T00:57:44Z")
Kirk got it on a year earlier in “Mirror, Mirror” with Barbara Luna, who’s of Filipina–Asian descent. He made it with Vietnamese France Nuyen in “Elaan of Troyus” before “Plato’s Stepchildren” was filmed. Going way back, Desi Arnaz was Hispanic. There are probably other examples as well. Danno on _ **Hawaii Five-O** _ scored with some hot non-white babes, IIRC. (All in the line of duty, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/4 "2021-02-22T03:31:21Z")
To set the record straight: That is not an on-the-lips kiss; I have a BIG TV and they are kissing each other on the left cheek. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/5 "2021-02-22T03:36:20Z")
So size DOES matter! 👍 ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/6 "2021-02-22T03:38:37Z")
I can’t help wondering exactly what Kirk was planning to do with that stalactite… 🤨🤭 ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/7 "2021-02-22T03:42:23Z")
^ Shades of, “Clockwork Orange.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/8 "2021-02-22T03:46:21Z")
Roc was a pretty BIG GUY, after all! 😏 ---
**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/9 "2021-02-22T16:37:48Z")
Funny, I actually posted that stalactite picture on George Takei’s Twitter feed years ago thinking I’d get an “oh my”, but he must get so much crap that it was ignored. ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/10 "2021-02-22T20:10:01Z")
I read recently that there was an interracial kiss many years previously in Great Britain or Australia. Can’t remember the show. ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/11 "2021-02-22T20:33:54Z")
Kirk must be stronger than I thought. He waves that heavy stalactite around like it’s a hunk of styrofoam! 😮 That’s one of my favorite episodes. I love the idea that you can make a duplicate of somebody by putting them on a spinning turntable. And it’s got Ted Cassidy AND Sherry Jackson AND a bottomless pit! You can’t go wrong with a combination like that. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/12 "2021-02-22T22:04:12Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > Not passion, but still interracial. That counts, doesn’t it? I don’t think so. That sort of cheek kiss between friends or relatives was considered a different sort of thing entirely. – mostly still is, isn’t it? Don’t people still kiss their parents like that, for instance? > [@terentii](#): > > Desi Arnaz was Hispanic In most of the USA, he was at the time considered white. “Hispanic” wasn’t the sort of category that it is now. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/13 "2021-02-22T22:36:03Z")
Yes, they weren’t segregated in the US armed forces. I don’t think Amerindians were either. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/14 "2021-02-22T22:39:44Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > I love the idea that you can make a duplicate of somebody by putting them on a spinning turntable. It’s almost literally handwaving the duplicate into existance. The Old Ones ™ owner’s manual for Presto Duplicate Person Maker Place subject on table Place gollum clay on table Spin –at this point a miracle occurs Stop turntable Enjoy your new duplicate ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/15 "2021-02-23T00:18:18Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > And it’s got Ted Cassidy AND Sherry Jackson AND a bottomless pit! You can’t go wrong with a combination like that. Sherry Jackson definitely caught my eye in that episode… ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/16 "2021-02-23T00:20:28Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > The Old Ones ™ owner’s manual for Presto Duplicate Person Maker > Place subject on table > Place gollum clay on table > Spin > –at this point a miracle occurs > Stop turntable > Enjoy your new duplicate Exercise caution in your thinking patterns; offending fellow officers could result. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/17 "2021-02-23T00:54:48Z")
Jackson did an interview afterward in which she revealed the solution she found to keeping her costume from separating from her breasts: she used Shatner’s toupee tape. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/18 "2021-02-23T19:32:23Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > > [@Bullitt](#): > > > > Not passion, but still interracial. That counts, doesn’t it? > > I don’t think so. That sort of cheek kiss between friends or relatives was considered a different sort of thing entirely. – mostly still is, isn’t it? Don’t people still kiss their parents like that, for instance? I’m talking of the interracial aspect. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/19 "2021-02-23T19:35:47Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Jackson did an interview afterward in which she revealed the solution she found to keeping her costume from separating from her breasts: she used Shatner’s toupee tape. Damn. No wardrobe malfunction. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414/20 "2021-02-23T20:31:34Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > I’m talking of the interracial aspect. Yes, I know. But non-sexual interracial embraces weren’t forbidden or shocking in the same way that sexual ones were. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-episode-what-are-little-girls-made-of/933414.md?page=2)