# ST:TOS Question **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 11, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315 "2019-02-11T01:50:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BobBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@BobBitchin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobBitchin)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/41 "2019-02-12T23:44:52Z")
> [@spifflog](#): > > She’s a female in the Navy. We call her “bitch’n Betty.” That’s my sister:eek:, and she makes a good livin lookin after you flyboys:D:D:p ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/42 "2019-02-13T00:04:00Z")
[Moderating] The talk about Roddenberry’s libido and/or his shenanigans with female cast members is threatening to get out of hand, and it’s off the thread’s original topic. Let’s drop that here. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/43 "2019-02-13T01:05:55Z")
> [@BobBitchin](#): > > That’s my sister:eek:, and she makes a good livin lookin after you flyboys:D:D:p Tell that to the marines!:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/44 "2019-02-15T17:51:14Z")
> [@spifflog](#): > > She’s a female in the Navy. We call her “bitch’n Betty.” When I was in the Navy, the part that did direction-finding and radio intercepts, there was a rumor that there had been an intercept of a Soviet general who’d crashed his fighter, apparently while holding down the mic button. The Russian equivalent of, “Pull up, pull up,” can be heard and he exclaimed, “Shut up, bitch! I know what I’m doing!” moments before he augered in. There was an episode of _Babylon 5_ I felt was a tip of the hat to TOS where the station computer had a personality module installed and it took a couple days to get rid of it. The voice was Harlan Ellison’s so the personality was anything but amorous and the one scene I remember is Garibaldi getting on an elevator while the computer is nagging him. As the doors close, without changing his deadpan expression, or even looking, he pulls his PPG and shoots out the speaker. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/45 "2019-02-15T18:53:45Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > “Ah…Dear, what did you say your first name was?” - I now pronounce you man and wife. Proceed with the execution!\* One of my very favorite movies. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/46 "2019-02-15T20:45:58Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > When I was in the Navy, the part that did direction-finding and radio intercepts, there was a rumor that there had been an intercept of a Soviet general who’d crashed his fighter, apparently while holding down the mic button. The Russian equivalent of, “Pull up, pull up,” can be heard and he exclaimed, “Shut up, bitch! I know what I’m doing!” moments before he augered in. That is too funny to be true. Is “bitch” derogatory in Russian? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/47 "2019-02-15T21:14:59Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > That is too funny to be true. Is “bitch” derogatory in Russian? I would imagine he was not saying the equivalent of “female dog.”😉 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/48 "2019-02-15T21:22:19Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I would imagine he was not saying the equivalent of “female dog.”😉 Perhaps the ever popular Russian curse, “F–k your mother”. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/49 "2019-02-16T12:49:43Z")
Don’t know for sure as I didn’t actually _hear_ the recording\* and don’t speak Russian even if I had. One of the decisions a translator has to make is whether to translate vernacular word-for-word or into something that makes more sense in the translated-to language. For example, a common expression in German for describing someone with a pale complexion is kaese-weiss – cheese-white. Do you translate that or use, “pale as a sheet” instead. \*That’s why I said ‘rumored.’ ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/50 "2019-02-16T13:46:26Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I would imagine he was not saying the equivalent of “female dog.”😉 I can imagine him [saying it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGo3h1Y2BR4). Calling someone a “bitch” or “son of a bitch” is certainly derogatory in Russian: “Блядь, вот суки!” &c ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/51 "2019-02-16T14:31:33Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > I can imagine him [saying it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGo3h1Y2BR4). Calling someone a “bitch” or “son of a bitch” is certainly derogatory in Russian: “Блядь, вот суки!” &c Thanks, DPRK. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/52 "2019-02-17T14:01:10Z")
There are a number of [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzJSaeJ3sHs) channels out there showing drivers in trouble. A goodly number of them are in Russia, probably because of their dash-cam habit. When we were watching I commented, “I think we’re hearing Russian they don’t teach you in high school.” ‘_Bilyets_’ comes up a _lot_. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/53 "2019-02-17T16:25:20Z")
bitch = suka dog = sobaka It could have been interesting on Star Trek if Chekhov occasionally lapsed into creative profanity, but I don’t recall that… ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/54 "2019-02-18T06:21:05Z")
n.m. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315/55 "2019-02-18T11:44:42Z")
According to a half-baked theory, in the show it is the Klingons who follow a putative Russian archetype, just like the Romulans represent Chinese and the Vulcans Japanese. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-tos-question/829315.md?page=2)