# ST: Where No Man Has Gone Before - why was Dehner so wrong? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 10, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-where-no-man-has-gone-before-why-was-dehner-so-wrong/847736 "2020-02-10T16:08:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-where-no-man-has-gone-before-why-was-dehner-so-wrong/847736/21 "2020-02-12T00:43:40Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > That is in fact my head canon for how the Q Continuum was created In a non-canon book series about the Q, the barrier is Q related. It’s not their formation, however. IN Q-Squared, we find out that it is Q himself–the one we know, after Trelane disincorporated him. He was trying to reincorporate, and piggybacked on existing people. He didn’t have his memory in that state, so he was more like a new being trying different things. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-where-no-man-has-gone-before-why-was-dehner-so-wrong/847736/22 "2020-02-12T02:52:22Z")
In the non-canon book series about Q, the barrier is there to keep a superpowerful being named 0 from escaping and wreaking havoc on the galaxy. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-where-no-man-has-gone-before-why-was-dehner-so-wrong/847736/23 "2020-02-12T03:18:08Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > In a non-canon book series about the Q, the barrier is Q related. It’s not their formation, however. IN Q-Squared, we find out that it is > > Q himself–the one we know, after Trelane disincorporated him. He was trying to reincorporate, and piggybacked on existing people. He didn’t have his memory in that state, so he was more like a new being trying different things. That’s the book I was thinking of, above. ---
**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-where-no-man-has-gone-before-why-was-dehner-so-wrong/847736/24 "2020-02-12T03:54:31Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I didn’t think so. He’ still learning his abilities. If he could, he’d control Kirk, or make Spock recite poetry, maybe. Like this? Take care, young ladies, and value your wine Be watchful of young men in their velvet prime Deeply they’ll swallow from your finest kegs Then swiftly be gone, leaving bitter dregs Ahh-ah-ah-ah, bitter dregs ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-where-no-man-has-gone-before-why-was-dehner-so-wrong/847736/25 "2020-02-12T13:51:33Z")
> [@Jay\_Z](#): > > Like this? > > Take care, young ladies, and value your wine > Be watchful of young men in their velvet prime > Deeply they’ll swallow from your finest kegs > Then swiftly be gone, leaving bitter dregs > Ahh-ah-ah-ah, bitter dregs Yours would work, but I was thinking more: SPOCK: Yes, sir. There’s a Tyger, tyger, burning bright in the forest of the night. SPOCK: Once upon a midnight dreary while I pondered, weak and weary. Very nice, Mr Ears. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/st-where-no-man-has-gone-before-why-was-dehner-so-wrong/847736.md?page=1)