# Stan Lee, how far you've fallen...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 19, 2000, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192 "2000-04-19T18:25:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Trout\_Mask\_Replica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a88e57/32.png) [@Trout\_Mask\_Replica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trout_Mask_Replica)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/1 "2000-04-19T18:25:00Z")

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[This link says more than I ever could.](http://www.backstreetproject.com)

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**TMR**  
_If you believed in yourself, and tore enough holes  
in your pants, there was always a mist-filled alley  
right around the corner._

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**Author:** ![Fillet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/2acd7d/32.png) [@Fillet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fillet)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/2 "2000-04-19T18:31:00Z")

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Thank you, TMR, for making me snarf coffee all over my keyboard. 🙂

You know, sometimes you just gotta laugh… and I’m sure Stan will be laughing all the way to the bank.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/3 "2000-04-19T18:35:00Z")

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Holy moly! I guess even ole Stan has to pay the bills… ☹

I’m tempted to say “It’s clobberin’ time!”

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**Author:** ![Openfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/48db29/32.png) [@Openfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Openfist)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/4 "2000-04-19T20:14:00Z")

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WTF!!!

I do not think I can ever buy another Marvel Comic again. I used to bitch about comic sell outs with all the crap out on the market today…but this takes the prize. Blue Ribbon even.

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Openfist

The hate I bear thee can afford No better term than this,–thou art a villain.

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**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/5 "2000-04-19T20:16:00Z")

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In the words of the immortal Troy McClure:

“…and my recent trouble with the IRS sealed the deal!”

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/6 "2000-04-19T20:18:00Z")

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> I do not think I can ever buy another Marvel Comic again.

Haven’t you heard? Stan is at DC now.

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**Author:** ![Me\_Joe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecccb3/32.png) [@Me\_Joe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Me_Joe)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/7 "2000-04-19T20:21:00Z")

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I don’t see what the shock and dismay and fuss is all about really. Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko(THE real geniuses behind the early 1960’s Marvel Comics) have both already done work for DC Comics about 25 years ago. (New Gods, Mr. Miracle – these names ring bells?) Not to mention John Byrne, Steve Englehart, Walt Simonson, et. al. who all jumped ship at one time or another from Marvel to DC. Why the hell SHOULDN’T Stan Lee work at DC?

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**Author:** ![Openfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/48db29/32.png) [@Openfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Openfist)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/8 "2000-04-19T20:30:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Mojo:  
> \*\*In the words of the immortal Troy McClure:
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> “…and my recent trouble with the IRS sealed the deal!”\*\*

LOL

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> Originally posted by spoke-:  
> \*\* Haven’t you heard? Stan is at DC now.\*\*

So when did this happen?

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Openfist

The hate I bear thee can afford No better term than this,–thou art a villain.

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**Author:** ![Kvallulf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@Kvallulf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kvallulf)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/9 "2000-04-19T21:13:00Z")

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I hope they do a Wolverine and Mr. Sinister Vs. the little twerps.

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/10 "2000-04-19T21:24:00Z")

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Am I the only one old enough to remember the KISS comic books Marvel\* did in the 70s?

It’s just the same thing with a different band. Now, you can argue that BSB is vastly inferior, musically, to KISS (and you’d be _right!_), but you can’t say the concept is any sillier than Super-KISS (or whatever they called it).

\*They guest-starred in a couple of issues of _Howard the Duck_ and had their own one-issue book. And there was a made-for-TV movie filmed at Six Flags Magic Mountain.

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Sig Alert!

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/11 "2000-04-19T21:58:00Z")

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**Openfist** -

Stan Lee’s deal with DC was announced maybe a week ago. In fact, there was a thread on the subject here, but I’m too lazy to dig it up. IIRC, he sold his interests and left Marvel some time ago, but a non-compete agreement kept him from working for any rivals. The non-compete just expired, and he signed on with DC.

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**Author:** ![MadPoet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8c91f0/32.png) [@MadPoet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadPoet)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/12 "2000-04-19T22:43:00Z")

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Musicians in comic books are nothing new at all… I have Metallica and Switchblade Symphony books, both which are pretty damn cool. Ozzy and Kiss have numerous books that I’ve seen, and I rmeember a particularly excremental series based on the Boo Ya Tribe from a while back.

We can only pray they make a backstreet boys movie, for that is the true death knell for any mass cultural phenomenon.

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[http://www.madpoet.com](http://www.madpoet.com)  
I am human, and I need to be loved  
Just like anybody else does

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**Author:** ![Odieman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a87d85/32.png) [@Odieman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odieman)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/13 "2000-04-19T22:54:00Z")

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> \*They guest-starred in a couple of issues of Howard the Duck

Now that’s a movie (Howard the Duck) I’d rather not think about.

## The BB’s are this generations NKOTB, or Monkee’s except they can’t sing as well and their dancing sucks. Keith

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2000, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/14 "2000-04-20T06:49:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Odieman:  
> \*\* Now that’s a movie (Howard the Duck) I’d rather not think about.\*\*

He said “issues”, as in “comic”. Nothing wrong with the HtD comic.

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“Hush, village idiot!”

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**Author:** ![G.B.H.Hornswoggler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c67d28/32.png) [@G.B.H.Hornswoggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G.B.H.Hornswoggler)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2000, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/15 "2000-04-20T16:57:00Z")

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The Wu-Tang Clan also have a comic book (I think they’re wizards in a fantasy world, or something else really likely along those lines).

I’m not entirely sure why TMR is so unhappy. Is it just a personal dislike for the Backstreet Boys? Surely it can’t be sadness that Stan Lee is dissipating his vast and wondrous writing skills on this project; he hasn’t written a thing except the bland Spidey newspaper strip for two decades.

I think it’s kind of funny, myself. It encapsulates the way I feel about manufactured pop icons and comic-book “superheroes” all in one neat, I-wouldn’t-believe-it-if-I-didn’t-see-it package.

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I’m your only friend  
I’m not your only friend  
But I’m a little glowing friend  
But really I’m not actually your friend  
But I am

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2000, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-lee-how-far-youve-fallen/16192/16 "2000-04-20T21:31:00Z")

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This seems not entirely like that Nightcat fiasco of his, only at least the Backstreet Boys are actually famous.
