# Stan Shmenge, please don't do this to your fellow conservatives. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098 "2009-01-06T16:32:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/21 "2009-01-06T18:12:45Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > I didn’t even know you were conservative. I’ve always seen you as just plain level headed. What a nice compliment. Thank you, **Lib**! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/22 "2009-01-06T18:20:28Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Twice! Damn, I wish I lived in Illinois so I coulda voted twice too. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/23 "2009-01-06T18:23:58Z")
> [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](#): > > Damn, I wish I lived in Illinois so I coulda voted twice too. I believe you’re confusing Illinois with Florida. ---
**Author:** ![GilaB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@GilaB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GilaB)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/24 "2009-01-06T18:45:15Z")
> [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](#): > > Damn, I wish I lived in Illinois so I coulda voted twice too. I voted for him twice, too, and I’ve never been to Illinois - once in the primaries, and once in the general election. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/25 "2009-01-06T20:35:08Z")
[This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10655519&postcount=7) gem from GQ. Dang, dude. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/26 "2009-01-06T20:38:15Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10655519&postcount=7) gem from GQ. Dang, dude. I’m lost. What was wrong with that post? I don’t agree with him on it. But it seems sound enough and fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/27 "2009-01-06T20:44:15Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I’m lost. What was wrong with that post? I don’t agree with him on it. But it seems sound enough and fair enough. A perfectly reasonable (albeit over-asked) question in GQ did not need that partisan jab. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/28 "2009-01-06T20:52:46Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Nah, it just makes this one conservative look like a smug asshole. Agreed, although I’d have said “dumbass”. There are smug assholes and dumbasses of all political stripes. Although I understand (because I occasionally share) \*\*Sarahfeena’s \*\*urge to say “Oh my god, get off my side!!!”, I generally accept that smug assholes and dumbasses represent only their smug dumbass selves. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/29 "2009-01-06T21:04:58Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > A perfectly reasonable (albeit over-asked) question in GQ did not need that partisan jab. I took a different reading. A clearly right leaning poster does not like Obama but insulted Bush just as much and also said he thought the attempts to say Obama cannot legally be President is BS. I think for a right-winger it is a fairly balanced post. Apparently he is no fan of Bush or Obama. His post: > [@Even IF Obama Weren't Born In the USA...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-if-obama-werent-born-in-the-usa/480053/7): > > As someone who has never voted for a Democrat for any office in his life, I am astounded at the continuing attempt to bring this crapola up. Obama is the next President. I wish him luck, and fear that he is as vastly underqualified as the last person to hold the office. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/30 "2009-01-06T21:14:46Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I took a different reading. A clearly right leaning poster does not like Obama but insulted Bush just as much and also said he thought the attempts to say Obama cannot legally be President is BS. I think for a right-winger it is a fairly balanced post. Apparently he is no fan of Bush or Obama. > > His post: Ah, yup. I see now. Nevvvvvermind… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/31 "2009-01-06T21:17:21Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I took a different reading. A clearly right leaning poster does not like Obama but insulted Bush just as much and also said he thought the attempts to say Obama cannot legally be President is BS. I think for a right-winger it is a fairly balanced post. Apparently he is no fan of Bush or Obama… That’s how I read it, too. There are plenty of principled conservatives around, folks. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/32 "2009-01-06T21:18:42Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > Ah, yup. I see now. Nevvvvvermind… 😃 Wow, may we mark this as a shared moment where someone’s opinion on the Internet was successfully changed in a mutually polite exchange? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/33 "2009-01-06T21:31:07Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Wow, may we mark this as a shared moment where someone’s opinion on the Internet was successfully changed in a mutually polite exchange? 😃 God damn, do my Pit threads suck, or what? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/34 "2009-01-06T21:53:22Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > This is what I think makes him sound like an asshole, though. You can take that stand, but ebay is a community with it’s own culture. If you want to do business there (or anywhere, for that matter), it doesn’t get you very far to piss off all your potential customers by not at least _appearing_ to consider the customer’s best interests and to understand the expectation they will have, based on the way the culture has evolved. He did consider “the culture”- he had agreed with/noted his intent to take my suggestion and offer the buyer half of the non-combined shipping rate, or offer to let the buyer off the hook with no negative feedback. That seems pretty fair, IMHO. I do agree that his Reagan thread (and random shots at liberals in the eBay thread) constitute total douchery. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/35 "2009-01-06T22:01:03Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > He did consider “the culture”- he had agreed with/noted his intent to take my suggestion and offer the buyer half of the non-combined shipping rate, or offer to let the buyer off the hook with no negative feedback. That seems pretty fair, IMHO. That was fair, I agree. The part I’m pitting is where he is pissed off about what appears to be a reasonable request, blames liberalism, and then says he’s going to take his ball and go home. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/36 "2009-01-06T22:17:03Z")
His comments were especially ironic considering that the underlying tenet of liberal philosophy is that all rights accrue from property ownership. ETA: Conservative philosophy holds that rights accrue from magisterial fiat. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/37 "2009-01-06T22:19:34Z")
Never mind any of this - let’s hear more about **Sarahfeena** ’s sex life. Let’s see - if missionary makes Republicans… Woman on top - feminist, obviously. Reverse cowgirl - lesbian, of course. Side by side - centrist Democrat. (Centrist Republican if the male is impotent). Doggy style - socialist. They go at everything back-assward, and if they hit the right spot it is only by accident. Conceive a child with a virgin, and you get Obama. (He doesn’t have any experience, either). Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/38 "2009-01-06T22:26:33Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Never mind any of this - let’s hear more about **Sarahfeena** ’s sex life. Oh please, let’s don’t. The uptight prudes on this board could never handle it. > [@](#): > > Let’s see - if missionary makes Republicans… > > Woman on top - feminist, obviously. > > Reverse cowgirl - lesbian, of course. > > Side by side - centrist Democrat. (Centrist Republican if the male is impotent). > > Doggy style - socialist. They go at everything back-assward, and if they hit the right spot it is only by accident. > > Conceive a child with a virgin, and you get Obama. (He doesn’t have any experience, either). > > Regards, > Shodan The rest of this cracks me up. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/39 "2009-01-06T22:28:19Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > ([Obama] doesn’t have any experience, either). But thank God he will. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098/40 "2009-01-06T22:30:58Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > Oh please, let’s don’t. The uptight prudes on this board could never handle it. Tease. Regards, Shodan [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stan-shmenge-please-dont-do-this-to-your-fellow-conservatives/480098.md?page=3)