# Stanley cup winner snubs President for political reasons **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 24, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460 "2012-01-24T02:14:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/221 "2012-01-30T03:27:43Z")
I personally don’t care about it one way or another. It’s not a huge slap in the face to anyone, except maybe, himself. I’m sure Obama would have been glad to discuss politics with him. How often does any “average” citizen get a chance to do that? He should have gone and said what he said on Facebook to the President’s face. ---
**Author:** ![wethinktohard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/67e7ee/32.png) [@wethinktohard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wethinktohard)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/222 "2012-01-30T03:35:24Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > I personally don’t care about it one way or another. It’s not a huge slap in the face to anyone, except maybe, himself. I’m sure Obama would have been glad to discuss politics with him. How often does any “average” citizen get a chance to do that? He should have gone and said what he said on Facebook to the President’s face. LOL maybe Obama and Thomas can have a beer and hash their differences out? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/223 "2012-01-30T03:55:23Z")
> [@wethinktohard](#): > > LOL maybe Obama and Thomas can have a beer and hash their differences out? Since it’s hockey, they should probably drop the gloves first, then be sent to the sin bin. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/224 "2012-01-30T04:45:30Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > I personally don’t care about it one way or another. It’s not a huge slap in the face to anyone, except maybe, himself. I’m sure Obama would have been glad to discuss politics with him. How often does any “average” citizen get a chance to do that? He should have gone and said what he said on Facebook to the President’s face. I seriously doubt Obama wants another Joe the Plumber event when he’s schlepping through a baby-kissing photo-op. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/225 "2012-01-30T05:23:40Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I seriously doubt Obama wants another Joe the Plumber event when he’s schlepping through a baby-kissing photo-op. Wait a minute – I thought you said this wasn’t just a PR event. Now it is? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/226 "2012-01-30T05:55:34Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Wait a minute – I thought you said this wasn’t just a PR event. Now it is? :dubious: That’s the totally amazing thing about critics. They can hold two mutually exclusive critical positions simultaneously in their heads. This is how, during the last election, people could be up in arms about what Obama’s pastor said, while at the same time saying he was a Muslim. So in this case, it’s only a cheap PR event, while at the same time being an important political event. See? ---
**Author:** ![wethinktohard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/67e7ee/32.png) [@wethinktohard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wethinktohard)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/227 "2012-01-30T12:47:07Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > That’s the totally amazing thing about critics. They can hold two mutually exclusive critical positions simultaneously in their heads. This is how, during the last election, people could be up in arms about what Obama’s pastor said, while at the same time saying he was a Muslim. > > So in this case, it’s only a cheap PR event, while at the same time being an important political event. See? I dont know if you can call Rev Wright a true pastor in the sense most christians perceive a pastor. Rev. Wright’s worldview is a poisonous mixture of Marxist socialism and a distorted view of the gospel of Jesus Christ which has as its chief goal the obliteration of Anglo/European influence on American life, culture and politics. Rev. Wright’s worldview comes across loud and clear: Barry Soetro aka Barrack Obama was raised as a Muslim in Indonisia by stepfather in Muslim schools. So I dont know what religion Obama truly believes. I also find it troubling the swirling rumors and stories about Obamas down low life style. The mother of the murdered gay choir leader at Wrights church is speaking out claiming Obama had a relationship with him. > **[World Class Marketing and Consumer Insights | Prodege](https://www.prodege.com)** > > Prodege is a leading consumer marketing and insights platform that helps brands understand, reach, and grow their customer base through innovative technology, consumer-centric insights, and always-on white-glove service. I know yyou can find all linds of lools on the web, but google Obama gay/bi sexual/ living down low, and the stories swirl even in gay oriented blogs. ---
**Author:** ![wethinktohard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/67e7ee/32.png) [@wethinktohard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wethinktohard)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/228 "2012-01-30T12:54:09Z")
> [@wethinktohard](#): > > I dont know if you can call Rev Wright a true pastor in the sense most christians perceive a pastor. Rev. Wright’s worldview is a poisonous mixture of Marxist socialism and a distorted view of the gospel of Jesus Christ which has as its chief goal the obliteration of Anglo/European influence on American life, culture and politics. Rev. Wright’s worldview comes across loud and clear: Barry Soetro aka Barrack Obama was raised as a Muslim in Indonisia by stepfather in Muslim schools. So I dont know what religion Obama truly believes. > > I also find it troubling the swirling rumors and stories about Obamas down low life style. The mother of the murdered gay choir leader at Wrights church is speaking out claiming Obama had a relationship with him. > > [World Class Marketing and Consumer Insights | Prodege](http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/report-mother-of-obamas-murdered-gay-lover-speaks-up-with-video/question-2279167/) > > I know yyou can find all linds of lools on the web, but google Obama gay/bi sexual/ living down low, and the stories swirl even in gay oriented blogs. correcting last sentence I know you can find all kinds of fools on the web, but google Obama gay/bi sexual/ living down low, and the stories swirl even in gay oriented blogs. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/229 "2012-01-30T12:58:30Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > So in this case, it’s only a cheap PR event, while at the same time being an important political event. See? You’ve got it backwards. I’m saying it was a cheap political event, and the Bruins are apparently saying it was an important public relations event. But there’s no reason it couldn’t be both. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/230 "2012-01-30T13:33:40Z")
> [@wethinktohard](#): > > I know you can find all kinds of fools on the web, but google Obama gay/bi sexual/ living down low, and the stories swirl even in gay oriented blogs. I looked up “Sublime Irony” in the dictionary and it listed this post. ---
**Author:** ![wethinktohard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/67e7ee/32.png) [@wethinktohard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wethinktohard)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/231 "2012-01-30T14:35:03Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I looked up “Sublime Irony” in the dictionary and it listed this post. I could care less what you want to call it, but going through life with your hands over your eyes is not recommended. I look at everything I did not give the accusations much thought until the mother of one of the murder victims makes the accusations. Dont you find it strange that two gay men are executed and they are both connected to the Wright church and are both linked to Obama on a personal level? Strange coincidence? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/232 "2012-01-30T14:57:23Z")
> [@wethinktohard](#): > > I dont know if you can call Rev Wright a true pastor in the sense most christians perceive a pastor. Rev. Wright’s worldview is a poisonous mixture of Marxist socialism and a distorted view of the gospel of Jesus Christ which has as its chief goal the obliteration of Anglo/European influence on American life, culture and politics. Rev. Wright’s worldview comes across loud and clear: Barry Soetro aka Barrack Obama was raised as a Muslim in Indonisia by stepfather in Muslim schools. So I dont know what religion Obama truly believes. > > I also find it troubling the swirling rumors and stories about Obamas down low life style. The mother of the murdered gay choir leader at Wrights church is speaking out claiming Obama had a relationship with him. > > [World Class Marketing and Consumer Insights | Prodege](http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/report-mother-of-obamas-murdered-gay-lover-speaks-up-with-video/question-2279167/) > > I know yyou can find all linds of lools on the web, but google Obama gay/bi sexual/ living down low, and the stories swirl even in gay oriented blogs. Oh, look. A crazy person. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/233 "2012-01-30T15:02:31Z")
> [@wethinktohard](#): > > I dont know if you can call Rev Wright a true pastor in the sense most christians perceive a pastor. Rev. Wright’s worldview is a poisonous mixture of Marxist socialism and a distorted view of the gospel of Jesus Christ which has as its chief goal the obliteration of Anglo/European influence on American life, culture and politics. This is a completely manufactured characterization of Wright; it would be an charitable to call it cartoonish. To buy into this, you would have to understand nothing about the black experience in America, not to mention not knowing anything specific about liberation theology. > [@](#): > > Rev. Wright’s worldview comes across loud and clear: Barry Soetro aka Barrack Obama was raised as a Muslim in Indonisia by stepfather in Muslim schools. Oh, that’s a giveaway. Here’s a hint: When you casually toss around the name “Barry Soetoro” as if it has some kind of import, you’re not going to be taken seriously around here. > [@](#): > > So I dont know what religion Obama truly believes. I suspect you don’t know what religion _any_ public person “truly” believes. > [@wethinktohard](#): > > Strange coincidence? Conspiracists seem to think that the words “strange coincidence” somehow constitutes an argument. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/234 "2012-01-30T15:09:04Z")
> [@wethinktohard](#): > > I could care less what you want to call it, but going through life with your hands over your eyes is not recommended. > > I look at everything I did not give the accusations much thought until the mother of one of the murder victims makes the accusations. Dont you find it strange that two gay men are executed and they are both connected to the Wright church and are both linked to Obama on a personal level? > > Strange coincidence? Convicted! I don’t know what I was thinking. I also wonder if you would clarify a few things related to UFO’s, Big-Foot, Atlantis and the Apollo moon landings when you have the time. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/235 "2012-01-30T15:51:03Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Thomas said nothing about Obama himself. You think he was objecting to government generally? He has every right to do so but he is objecting to Obama. > [@](#): > > People aren’t complaining that Thomas didn’t attend so much as how he acted about it. I think at least some people are saying that he was a jerk for not attending. > [@wethinktohard](#): > > Its only improper to disagree and protest a liberal democratic president, if its a conservative republican its your civic duty, it would unAmerican otherwise. Like I said, I can’t remember any athelete doing this to Bush. Do you? > [@wethinktohard](#): > > I dont know if you can call Rev Wright a true pastor in the sense most christians perceive a pastor. > > Rev. Wright’s worldview is a poisonous mixture of Marxist socialism and a distorted view of the gospel of Jesus Christ which has as its chief goal the obliteration of Anglo/European influence on American life, culture and politics. You googled Republican Jesus didn’t you? > [@](#): > > Rev. Wright’s worldview comes across loud and clear: Barry Soetro aka Barrack Obama was raised as a Muslim in Indonisia by stepfather in Muslim schools. So I dont know what religion Obama truly believes. Obama is a secret Muslim? I’ve heard it before. [quote] I also find it troubling the swirling rumors and stories about Obamas down low life style. The mother of the murdered gay choir leader at Wrights church is speaking out claiming Obama had a relationship with him. > **[World Class Marketing and Consumer Insights | Prodege](https://www.prodege.com)** > > Prodege is a leading consumer marketing and insights platform that helps brands understand, reach, and grow their customer base through innovative technology, consumer-centric insights, and always-on white-glove service. Now he’s a closet homosexual? I hadn’t heard this one before. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/236 "2012-01-30T18:35:18Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Oh, look. A crazy person. This was inappropriate for GD. Thought this thread was in the Pit. Apologies to all concerned, particularly **wethinktohard**. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/237 "2012-01-30T19:13:27Z")
> [@wethinktohard](#): > > I could care less what you want to call it, but going through life with your hands over your eyes is not recommended. > > I look at everything I did not give the accusations much thought until the mother of one of the murder victims makes the accusations. Dont you find it strange that two gay men are executed and they are both connected to the Wright church and are both linked to Obama on a personal level? > > Strange coincidence? I think it’s now officially time to stop taking you seriously. (Oh, and it’s I _couldn’t_ care less. God, I hate it when people do that!) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/238 "2012-01-30T19:19:52Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Now he’s a closet homosexual? I hadn’t heard this one before. Yes, he can be both a closet homosexual, and a ravager of all the nice white women out there. He’s just _that_ evil. ETA; He’s also BOTH Godzilla AND Mothra. At the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/239 "2012-01-30T19:25:43Z")
I’ll bet he’s a Flyers fan too. ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/240 "2012-01-30T20:03:17Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I’ll bet he’s a Flyers fan too. Nah, he’s a [Penguins](http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/rWV6n29nVaO/Obama+Hosts+Stanley+Cup+Champions+Pittsburgh)fan. Oh, wait, no…a [Blackhawks](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QZO0RuGU1ng/TX1I_lE5X7I/AAAAAAAAE7k/FRFiYBifWkU/s1600/60059055.jpg)fan… …or a [Bruins](http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20120123/416_cp24_obama_bruins_120123.jpg)fan…though he looks much less happy about this… Obama is a bandwagon jumper. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460.md?page=13)