# Stanley cup winner snubs President for political reasons **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 24, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460 "2012-01-24T02:14:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/241 "2012-01-30T20:19:55Z")
> [@wethinktohard](#): > > I look at everything Then how on earth did you miss “too”? ---
**Author:** ![wethinktohard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/67e7ee/32.png) [@wethinktohard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wethinktohard)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/242 "2012-01-30T20:25:43Z")
Its funny the reaction you get from supposed open minded individuals, I did not post these allegations, I found them out on the web, you are free to make up your own mind, I feel bad for the mother of the slain choir leader, she is the one making the accusations. I did a little search on Donald Young and it seems like its a dead end investigation, no leads only accusations of a cover up. ---
**Author:** ![wethinktohard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/67e7ee/32.png) [@wethinktohard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wethinktohard)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/243 "2012-01-30T20:29:00Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Yes, he can be both a closet homosexual, and a ravager of all the nice white women out there. He’s just _that_ evil. > > ETA; He’s also BOTH Godzilla AND Mothra. At the same time. Who would have thought Jerry Sandusky was a closet homosexual. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/244 "2012-01-30T20:31:45Z")
> [@wethinktohard](#): > > I did not post these allegations, I found them out on the web, you are free to make up your own mind Aaaaaaand we have. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/245 "2012-01-30T20:32:06Z")
I can find the Time Cube guy on the internet. Does not mean that he’s correct. There is a lot of crazy stuff out there. It would behoove you to not just suck it up and then spew it out in an uncritical manner. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/246 "2012-01-30T22:25:49Z")
> [@wethinktohard](#): > > Who would have thought Jerry Sandusky was a closet homosexual. Jerry Sandusky _wasn’t_ a closet homosexual, he was a pedophile. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/247 "2012-01-30T23:39:59Z")
> [@wethinktohard](#): > > Who would have thought Jerry Sandusky was a closet homosexual. A stunning analogy. Now all you have to do is produce multiple victims willing to testify in court and eyewitness testimony of Obama in the act, and it will certainly apply to the allegations you’ve brought to the thread. Also, what **miss elizabeth** said. Sandusky’s a pedophile, not a homosexual. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/248 "2012-01-31T00:08:11Z")
> [@wethinktohard](#): > > Barry Soetro aka Barrack Obama was raised as a Muslim in Indonisia by stepfather in Muslim schools. So I dont know what religion Obama truly believes. I’m genuinely surprised someone as open-minded and intellectually curious as yourself would make such glaring errors. Obama was not raised as a Muslim and he didn’t attend any “Muslim school”. He attended a public school and later he attended a Catholic school. In short, you’d have at least as much evidence that he’s a secret Catholic. Anyway I recommend avoiding putting forth arguments associated with ignorant trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/249 "2012-01-31T02:15:54Z")
Since this is a hockey thread, shouldn’t we be debating whether Gary Bettman’s a secret Muslim? ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/250 "2012-01-31T03:08:17Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Since this is a hockey thread, shouldn’t we be debating whether Gary Bettman’s a secret Muslim? Since this is a hockey thread, shouldn’t we be debating whether Gary Bettman’s a secret [del]Muslim[/del]Martian? FTFY ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/251 "2012-01-31T03:21:15Z")
No need to look any further than the join date of the problem poster. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/252 "2012-01-31T03:30:17Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Wait a minute – I thought you said this wasn’t just a PR event. Now it is? :dubious: uh what? That was in response to the idea that Obama would want to debate Thomas. This was just another baby-kissing photo op for a politician. Why would he want Thomas the plumber mucking up a perfectly good photo with a sound bite? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/253 "2012-01-31T05:15:11Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > uh what? That was in response to the idea that Obama would want to debate Thomas. This was just another baby-kissing photo op for a politician. Why would he want Thomas the plumber mucking up a perfectly good photo with a sound bite? Hey, you were the one claiming it was a political event, not us! THOMAS was the one trying to make it political. Apparently, you can’t have it both ways, can you? (And no, for him to do so would have been entirely out of line) ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/254 "2012-02-01T14:55:43Z")
> [@Trom](#): > > Where are you guys getting the impression that he is dissing Obama personally? Did you not read the quote where he explicitly says: > ? He was speaking _in code! In code!_ :eek::rolleyes:😃 ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/255 "2012-02-01T15:07:29Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > I personally don’t care about it one way or another. It’s not a huge slap in the face to anyone, except maybe, himself. I’m sure Obama would have been glad to discuss politics with him. How often does any “average” citizen get a chance to do that? He should have gone and said what he said on Facebook to the President’s face. Are you dreaming? These events aren’t a tete a tete for political input. The man had a conscience, and you’re trying to treat him like he was one of the Dixie Chicks! ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/256 "2012-02-01T15:50:50Z")
The Dixie Chicks did nothing wrong either. In fact, they did far less than this. They merely expressed their opinion about the president on their own time. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/257 "2012-02-01T16:09:56Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > Are you dreaming? These events aren’t a tete a tete for political input. > > The man had a conscience, and you’re trying to treat him like he was one of the Dixie Chicks! From **Shodan** ’s link: > [@](#): > > Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli confirmed that Thomas had told him months ago he would not attend the White House event due to his political and ideological differences with the Obama administration. ---
**Author:** ![ch4rl3s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c4cdca/32.png) [@ch4rl3s](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ch4rl3s)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/258 "2012-02-02T14:54:39Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I don’t see why it’s a problem, provided you live in a right to work state. Political ideology isn’t race, gender, or religion. “I heard you donated to the Conservatives. We’re Librul 'round here. You donate to our candidates, and be seen with who we say. You’re fired.” (or vise versa) You can’t possibly say your employer can dictate to you any type of political activity. [QUOTE=Guinastasia] They wouldn’t be firing for his political views, but for his refusal to participate in promotional events. Which is what this is considered, no matter what people say. (How many times do athletes have to meet with the mayor, or the governor? It’s all about public relations.) [/QUOTE] “We think it would be good for public relations if you were seen shaking the hand of Satan. you don’t have to agree with him, you just have to \*\*shut your mouth \*\*and pretend you do. conscience assuaged.;)” ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/259 "2012-02-02T14:57:45Z")
A. So, what? Obama = Satan? 1. Produce a Satan for someone to shake hands with, and you might approach a point. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460/260 "2012-02-02T15:02:19Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > A. So, what? Obama = Satan? It’s all a matter of opinion, isn’t it? It’s true, in the United States, a private employer can fire you for political reasons, but I don’t see that as a good thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stanley-cup-winner-snubs-president-for-political-reasons/610460.md?page=14)