# Star Citizen is the Future of PC Gaming, and it \[was\] Free to Play this week (Edit: No Longer Free)

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** video-games-e-games\
**Created:** [October 13, 2015, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528 "2015-10-13T06:29:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/861 "2022-05-07T15:01:25Z")

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> **[Star Citizen is doing 'bedsheet deformation' physics now, because of course...](https://www.pcgamer.com/star-citizen-is-doing-bedsheet-deformation-physics-now-because-of-course-it-is/)**
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> Cloud Imperium says the tech is important for immersion. Star Citizen players are saying other things.

“We knew early on that, to hit the fidelity we expect for Sq42, we would need to do some R&D on bedsheet deformation,” the AI Content team explained, apparently straight-faced. “This work is currently underway and, if successful, will allow the AI to deform their sheets when entering, exiting, or sleeping inside them. This is a challenging assignment and expands the complexity of the feature. For example, what happens to the sheets if the AI needs to exit the bed in an emergency?”

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/862 "2022-05-07T19:49:01Z")

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This has to be CIG trolling.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/863 "2022-05-07T21:41:18Z")

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I stuck with auto dock for a long while, but when piloting the T10, its is just a suicidal maniac .  
I got the hang of manual docking and twiddling the lateral thrusters on the keyboard.  
I then got a joystick and been manually docking all the time, its fun in the krait.

I also found the id you are thrusting upl/r/down and hit the boost switch , all the boost goes to that thruster , so makes for fun straight up launches from outpost or carriers ( dont try inside a station), i guess it should be useful in combat.

I also dropped the supercruise assist from my combat conda and Krait II The Sandwich Maker aka Thargoid scout farmer , but keep forgetting that you don’t get the dethrottle after deopping from hyperspace so several close calls with the stars. Supercruse is definitely going back on for exploration and mining.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/864 "2022-05-07T23:30:54Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> [Star Citizen is doing 'bedsheet deformation' physics now, because of course it is | PC Gamer](https://www.pcgamer.com/star-citizen-is-doing-bedsheet-deformation-physics-now-because-of-course-it-is/)

This is how you know that Cloud Imperium are scammers.

> Even though neither Star Citizen nor Squadron 42 are out yet, Cloud Imperium began talking about potential [sequels](https://www.pcgamer.com/cloud-imperium-starts-referencing-star-citizen-spinoff-sequels/) earlier this year.

Before that, I thought, eh, maybe they’re just overly ambitious. But if you’re already planning sequels before you’ve released any games, that shows that you plan to stay in perpetual development. Milking people for money forever without having any actual games to show for it.

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**Author:** ![Limmin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f04885/32.png) [@Limmin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Limmin)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/865 "2022-05-08T13:49:32Z")

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> [@Precambrianmollusc](#):
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> I also found the id you are thrusting upl/r/down and hit the boost switch , all the boost goes to that thruster ,

I do a lot of exploration / planetary landings, so of course I gotta try this… No better way to announce, to a frozen, dark ice cube, that “I’m outta here!!” than to blast forcefully up in the vertical direction from the ground.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/866 "2022-05-09T14:09:46Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> . But if you’re already planning sequels before you’ve released any games, that shows that you plan to stay in perpetual development.

Even if (if if if if if) Star Citizen does manage to come out some day, they’ve robbed Peter to pay Paul a thousand times over. Very little of the half-billion dollars they’ve raised is from investors; almost all of it is just their profit paid out in advance.

Revenue from new player accounts and the PTW economy will have to pay for servers and support staff for the game itself. And also for paying off its private investors.

If it launches in the pantheon of best-selling games of all time, CiG will have more money than it knows what to do with. But Its promises - shiny and exciting in 2011 - won’t be droolworthy in the future year of 20xy. Its window for innovating and disrupting the market is long gone. There’s no objective reason to believe it’ll be a smash hit, and even if the existing backers have the time of their fucking lives, they’ve already paid for the game.

I suspect many players will be like me. If the game actually delivers on its promises I’ll be interested in playing it, but I will need serious convincing that the persistent universe and economy haven’t been eternally borked by (more than) a decade’s worth of real-money transactions.

So of course they need a sequel. Crowdfunding is where they make their money. It’s the core of their business model.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/867 "2022-05-09T14:21:10Z")

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If you don’t mind me asking-How much money would you say you have invested in this game so far, including anything you might have given them via crowd funding?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/868 "2022-05-09T14:38:12Z")

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Psst: @Precambrianmollusc is referring to [this game.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elite-dangerous/707501)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/869 "2022-05-09T14:55:52Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> If you don’t mind me asking-How much money would you say you have invested in this game so far, including anything you might have given them via crowd funding?

Never mind-I missed the link back to the previous post.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/870 "2022-05-09T23:41:43Z")

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Sorry , I guess is should really be in the other thread.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/871 "2022-05-18T17:10:41Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Cloud Imperium are scammers.

Cloud Imperium: “Optimism is not against the law.”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/872 "2022-06-19T00:15:21Z")

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Recently passed $480 million and promoting a humongous cargo ship.

> **[Star Citizen Gets New Video Showing Banu Merchantman Progress as Crowdfunding...](https://twinfinite.net/2022/06/star-citizen-video-banu-merchantman/)**
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> Star Citizen developer Cloud Imperium Games released a new video focusing on the progress of the growing space sim.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/873 "2022-06-19T17:03:58Z")

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They’ve doubled their average monthly intake since December. I wonder if and for how long they can keep that up.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/874 "2022-06-19T17:41:25Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Recently passed $480 million and promoting a humongous cargo ship.
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> [Star Citizen Gets New Video Showing Banu Merchantman Progress as Crowdfunding Passes $480 Million](https://twinfinite.net/2022/06/star-citizen-video-banu-merchantman/)

As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most.

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**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/875 "2022-06-22T23:29:44Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most.

Cloud Imperium Games, however, does _not_ appear to have a crew and good captain well-seasoned.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/876 "2022-06-23T00:21:06Z")

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They’d have made Whitefish Bay if they put 15 billion more dollars behind 'er.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/877 "2022-06-23T12:49:04Z")

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And all that remains is the dollars and the names  
Of the backers and donors and buyers

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/878 "2022-09-20T15:36:03Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Recently passed $480 million and promoting a humongous cargo ship.
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> [Star Citizen Gets New Video Showing Banu Merchantman Progress as Crowdfunding Passes $480 Million](https://twinfinite.net/2022/06/star-citizen-video-banu-merchantman/)

They’ve passed $500 million now. Half-a-billion dollars and still nothing to show for it. I am shocked this is not criminal. I am more shocked that people keep giving them money.

> **[Star Citizen crowdfunding reaches half a billion dollars](https://www.neowin.net/news/star-citizen-crowdfunding-reaches-half-a-billion-dollars/)**
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> Cloud Imperium Games has reached another major crowdfunding milestone for its in-development space RPG Star Citizen. $500,000,000 is the latest goal backers from the community have hit.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/879 "2022-09-20T15:42:43Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> They’ve passed $500 million now. Half-a-billion dollars and still nothing to show for it. I am shocked this is not criminal. I am more shocked that people keep giving them money

For that much money, you could run off with $400 million and then pay another game studio $100 million to make the best space game ever made to distract anyone who’d want to come after you.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528/880 "2022-09-20T17:35:36Z")

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According to the company financials all the money is going straight back out to pay for advertising and, presumably, a shit ton of developers. Not finding info about how much the top brass is pulling in though I bet it is sufficient to motivate them to continue this grift as long as they possibly can.

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