# Star Trek 4 is coming (another one, not the Whales one)

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**Created:** [July 18, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234 "2016-07-18T18:38:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234/1 "2016-07-18T18:38:16Z")

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Beyond is not out yet (but despite the kind of lame trailers, it is getting decent reviews so I am starting to get a little excited) but already they announced another movie in the new Universe is coming. Surprisingly Chris Hemsworth will be back as Kirk’s dad. If you recall, he was the first officer of the Kelvin, the ship destroyed in the beginning of the first one. This incident is what created the new Timeline in the first place.

Given this, here’s what they should do (and I can’t take credit for this. I saw this idea online and think it’s a good one). The should bring this whole thing full circle and have the story be the Enterprise goes back and saves the Kelvin and in the end, in a very City on the Edge of Forever type moment, the crew sacrifices the universe they knew to put back the one that we knew. I think that would be great. Not because I hate the new movies (I liked the first one a lot) but because that would be such an awesome story. I think it would be brave and great.

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**Author:** ![Chihuahua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@Chihuahua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chihuahua)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234/2 "2016-07-19T11:59:58Z")

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I could not care less about the new Trek movies.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234/3 "2016-07-19T12:14:45Z")

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It seemed like a very unofficial kind of announcement, I wouldn’t be 100% sure it will follow through just yet.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234/4 "2016-07-19T12:18:44Z")

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Anton Yelchin won’t be replaced as Chekov. Good decision.

> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> It seemed like a very unofficial kind of announcement, I wouldn’t be 100% sure it will follow through just yet.

It’s official. It’s been announced by Paramount.

> **[Star Trek 4 is Officially a Go; Synopsis & Writers Revealed](https://screenrant.com/star-trek-4-synopsis-casting-writers/)**
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> Paramount Pictures officially announces Star Trek 4 and its screenwriters, with Chris Hemsworth returning as George Kirk.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234/5 "2016-07-19T13:12:45Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> It’s official. It’s been announced by Paramount.

Huh, I didn’t expect that. It took quite a while to confirm there’d be a third. They must be wanting to dive into shooting it quickly.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234/6 "2016-07-19T13:32:16Z")

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> [@Chihuahua](#):
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> I could not care less about the new Trek movies.

No need to threadshit. If you don’t like the topic, move on to something else.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234/7 "2016-07-19T13:43:48Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Given this, here’s what they should do (and I can’t take credit for this. I saw this idea online and think it’s a good one). The should bring this whole thing full circle and have the story be the Enterprise goes back and saves the Kelvin and in the end, in a very City on the Edge of Forever type moment, the crew sacrifices the universe they knew to put back the one that we knew. I think that would be great. Not because I hate the new movies (I liked the first one a lot) but because that would be such an awesome story. I think it would be brave and great.

Hmmm… A save-Vulcan rather than save-the-Whales modification? I could see that. But you know it’s more likely it leads to Dad Kirk sacrificing once again so JTK can grow up to be awesome.

But maybe he can ask the younger folk if in their age Starfleet Yards cranks out starships like Hyundais. Utopian economy notwhitstanding those mothers must not be cheap and they keep losing them…

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234/8 "2016-07-19T13:58:58Z")

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On The Late Show with Stephen Colbert last night, Zoe Saldana said that _four_ more movies are planned.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234/9 "2016-07-19T15:39:28Z")

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Hasn’t Star Fleet gotten tired of the cost of patching the Enterprise back up once Kirk is done with it? Based on the trailers, it looks like even less of the Enterprise is left after this movie than the two previous.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234/10 "2016-07-19T15:59:23Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Anton Yelchin won’t be replaced as Chekov. Good decision.

Yes it is a good decision. However, I now fear new crewmember Ensign Wesley Crusher.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234/11 "2016-07-19T16:19:03Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> On The Late Show with Stephen Colbert last night, Zoe Saldana said that _four_ more movies are planned.

I thought she said that about the planned AVATAR sequels.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234/12 "2016-07-19T16:37:11Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Yes it is a good decision. However, I now fear new crewmember Ensign Wesley Crusher.

I don’t think you have to worry about that right away. He wouldn’t be born for about another 80 years or so.

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**Author:** ![Harvey\_The\_Heavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harvey_The_Heavy)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-4-is-coming-another-one-not-the-whales-one/760234/13 "2016-07-22T15:44:00Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Yes it is a good decision. However, I now fear new crewmember Ensign Wesley Crusher.

There’s always [Lt. Arex](http://www.startrekcrossindex.com/TAS03image002.jpg).
