# Star Trek actor arrested for flashing children

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 16, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426 "2015-09-16T00:50:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/21 "2015-09-16T04:11:21Z")

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She’s just a child herself. Where is Nelix when you need him?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/22 "2015-09-16T05:16:14Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> She’s just a child herself. Where is Nelix when you need him?

Nelix, was a jealous asshole. He’d probably wind up pummeling the kids for looking at his sweet Kess.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/23 "2015-09-16T05:56:20Z")

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Kes’ best scenes were with the Doctor. She was the first character that interacted with him as a real person. IIRC she was the one that lobbied for him to control when his program was turned on and off. Giving him free will to pursue other interests. Before that he was just a program that got started when needed. Much like Firefox. 😉

Jennifer Lien and Robert Picardo had much better on screen chemistry (as colleagues on a space ship) than she ever had with Neelix.

I wish they could have kept her on the show. But apparently she had some problems. Drugs? or maybe illness.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/24 "2015-09-16T06:26:11Z")

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[SDMB thread about 10 years ago about](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=315214) a story [claiming that pedophilia seemed to be prevalent among “Trekkies”](http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/IS-THAT-A-PHASER-IN-YOUR-POCKET-2629624.php).

Odd. Never thought it extended to cast members.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/25 "2015-09-16T08:03:40Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> [SDMB thread about 10 years ago about](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=315214) a story [claiming that pedophilia seemed to be prevalent among “Trekkies”](http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/IS-THAT-A-PHASER-IN-YOUR-POCKET-2629624.php).
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> Odd. Never thought it extended to cast members.

That’s a few big leaps you’re making there. Warp 7, even.

I might have called the police for her own protection too, partly due to fears that if she kept acting like that then some other civilian would not react kindly.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/26 "2015-09-16T10:02:43Z")

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Yeah, flashing some neighborhood kids might be batshit crazy, but it’s a long way from pedophilia. That leap in logic would short-circuit some androids if spoken aloud by Capt. Kirk.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/27 "2015-09-16T11:24:50Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Officer: So, do you know the woman who flashed you?  
> Boy: Well, she was Kes in Voyager.  
> Officer: _Nice._  
> Officer2: Nice.  
> Boy: Erm…here’s a recent photo.  
> Officer: Oh. Wow. OK, we’ll go arrest her immediately.

I nearly woke my kids up laughing at this. Well done.

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/28 "2015-09-16T14:07:20Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> [SDMB thread about 10 years ago about](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=315214) a story [claiming that pedophilia seemed to be prevalent among “Trekkies”](http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/IS-THAT-A-PHASER-IN-YOUR-POCKET-2629624.php).
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> Odd. Never thought it extended to cast members.

This sounds way more like she was intoxicated or some mental issue then that she was getting off sexually by flashing the kids, in front of their parents even.

> [@](#):
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> "We always say there are two types of pedophiles: ‘Star Trek’ and ‘Star Wars,’ " Detective Ian Lamond told Gatehouse. "But it’s mostly ‘Star Trek.’ "

LOL

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/29 "2015-09-16T14:42:10Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> She was much younger than everyone else in the cast, evidently, and was never able to form very close friendships with any of the other actors.

Considering that Whill Whheaton was considerably younger than the rest of the TNG cast and had no issues making long term friendships, I’m going to go with it being her.

Oh wait, this was Voyager, and NONE of those people have any long term friendships with each other, the show sucked that bad.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/30 "2015-09-16T15:11:23Z")

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I’d have psychiatric problems too, if I’d slept with Neelix.

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/31 "2015-09-16T15:15:56Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> I’d have psychiatric problems too, if I’d slept with Neelix.

[![](https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq7hfhHLo31r1kjqio1_500.gif) ](https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq7hfhHLo31r1kjqio1_500.gif)

I forgot about that, and when she was only three years old too!

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/32 "2015-09-16T15:21:43Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Or should I say [actress](https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/star-trek-voyager-actress-arrested-allegedly-flashing-children-224829186.html). Voyager’s Jennifer Lien was arrested for flashing children. And she was waiting for the deputies with her front door wide open. Also she was naked, and ended up being forcibly dressed by the deputies. I had no idea she had legal (& obviously mental and/or drug) problems. Or anything else about her other than disappearing off everyone’s radar like most Trek performers.

From the cited article: “The actress was naked except for a blanket on her couch”. Who writes like that?

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/33 "2015-09-16T15:31:14Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> From the cited article: “The actress was naked except for a blanket on her couch”. Who writes like that?

Most so-called “journalists” in the exciting new age of bloggery-woggery.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/34 "2015-09-16T15:36:48Z")

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> [@CaptainAmerica\_1987](#):
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> If Seven of Nine had flashed me I would be happy! 🙂
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> However being flashed by Kes is nothing to be proud or happy about. I can’t see any kind of enjoyment coming from that in anyway.

I always thought [Jennifer Lien](http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/9/9a/Kes,_2373.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121022151722&path-prefix=en) was much prettier than Jeri Ryan. The weird wig she had to wear most of the time detracted from her [looks](http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/7/73/Kes2374.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120409001247&path-prefix=en).

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/35 "2015-09-16T15:38:18Z")

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> [@CaptainAmerica\_1987](#):
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> If Seven of Nine had flashed me I would be happy! 🙂

\<fx Ash\> “I’m blind! I’m blind!” \</fx\>

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/36 "2015-09-16T15:40:40Z")

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This doesn’t sound sexual to me. Mooning someone is more of a expression of outrage. It used to be pretty common to see someone’s bare butt hanging out of a car window. 😉 I can’t recall any prosecutions for mooning.

But, obviously Lien has serious issues. Sexual? Like she’s trying attract the kids to her? I don’t think so. Just the opposite. She was mad and wanted to insult the family.

> **[‘Star Trek: Voyager’ actress Jennifer Lien charged with indecent exposure | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2015/09/15/entertainment/star-trek-arrest-jennifer-lien-feat/index.html)**
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> Jennifer Lien, an actress best known for her role as Kes on “Star Trek: Voyager,” was arrested on a charge of incident exposure on September 3 in Tennessee.

> [@](#):
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> Neighbor Carey Smith told WATE that Lien came by her home to comment on how Smith’s children were being raised and started using vulgar language.
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> “All of a sudden, here come the shirt up,” said Smith.
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> “She started flashing and, ‘Woo hoo,’ and I said, ‘And what respect is that for kids?’ There was none. And then she turned around and dropped her pants.”  
> According to the affiliate, Lien was found naked on her couch by deputies and resisted walking to the patrol car after threatening to kill the officers.
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> Lien was clothed and carried out to the car.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/37 "2015-09-16T15:44:33Z")

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_Just saw this_

Oh no… :sad:

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/38 "2015-09-16T16:27:25Z")

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So, is this going to end up with her being put on some kind of sex offender list? Because that would really suck. Does anybody know how this sort of thing is handled wrt mental illness?

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/39 "2015-09-16T16:28:06Z")

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> [@CaptainAmerica\_1987](#):
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> However being flashed by Kes is nothing to be proud or happy about. I can’t see any kind of enjoyment coming from that in anyway.

I have to agree. Even in her prime, I would be very uncomfortable getting flashed by her. She looked like a 14-year-old girl on _Voyager_, for Chrissake. As she looks today… well… :eek:

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-actor-arrested-for-flashing-children/731426/40 "2015-09-16T16:43:14Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Considering that Whill Whheaton was considerably younger than the rest of the TNG cast and had no issues making long term friendships, I’m going to go with it being her.

I think WW was much more a “child actor” in TNG, while Lien was just a “younger than the rest of the cast adult actor”. I could certainly see how having a defined adult/child situation can result in a more pleasant situation than an adult/other-adult-you-have-nothing-in-common-with situation.

Or maybe WW is just saner.

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