# Star Trek chronology

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** star-trek-paramount\
**Created:** [August 3, 2025, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659 "2025-08-03T13:35:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/21 "2025-08-04T01:10:42Z")

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He had a connection with dilithium on a very powerful level because he was born on a planetoid that was pure dilithium.

It was still stupid, though.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/22 "2025-08-04T01:26:40Z")

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> [@LurkMeister](#):
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> Noted. I’m almost afraid to ask why.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/cVOT4xkkDAc/maxresdefault.jpg "I've never eaten a real apple") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVOT4xkkDAc)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/23 "2025-08-04T02:38:46Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> Trekkies

_Trekkers_, if you please. 🖖

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/24 "2025-08-04T12:07:35Z")

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Unmentioned is that the same raw material is used for real apples.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/25 "2025-08-04T12:45:15Z")

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True. The process for converting shit to real apples is just slower, and can introduce variance in the final product.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/26 "2025-08-04T13:39:52Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> (Nemesis was the third and last movie with the TNG cast.)

Fourth.

Generations, First Contact, Insurrection, Nemesis. Though Generations was a baton-passing movie, it did feature TNG crew, And it continued the odd-numbered movie tradition of destroying Enterprises needlessly.

Not that anyone cares…but I a lifelong trekker gave up and never watched Nemesis, and I have no plans to ever do so. I only watch proven good shows, like Lower Decks, and not Disco. Even though I read about the stupidity of The Burn, this sentence

> [@LurkMeister](#):
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> I wasn’t aware that Kelpians had such powers

Means nothing, as I have no idea who or what they are. (yes I could look it up, no, I won’t)

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/27 "2025-08-04T13:54:41Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Unmentioned is that the same raw material is used for real apples.

I mean, apples are mainly made of air and water, like all plants. The shit just adds some trace elements, for seasoning.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/28 "2025-08-04T13:55:55Z")

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> [@LurkMeister](#):
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> i had heard that Discovery went downhill beginning in season 3,

Discovery went downhill the moment Jason Isaacs left.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/29 "2025-08-04T14:45:32Z")

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I had no problem with the new setting in the 32nd Century, the reason I stopped watching _Discovery_ was the endless speeches the writers compelled the characters to give. The turning point was when some producer figured out that they could save 5 minutes of expensive CGI just by writing a five page monologue.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/30 "2025-08-04T14:56:21Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Fourth.
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> Generations, First Contact, Insurrection, Nemesis. Though Generations was a baton-passing movie, it did feature TNG crew, And it continued the odd-numbered movie tradition of destroying Enterprises needlessly.
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> Not that anyone cares…but I a lifelong trekker gave up and never watched Nemesis, and I have no plans to ever do so. I only watch proven good shows, like Lower Decks, and not Disco.

_facepalm_ I clearly forgot one. FWIW, I never watched either Insurrection nor Nemesis.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/31 "2025-08-04T17:48:50Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> FWIW, I never watched either Insurrection nor Nemesis

You didn’t miss much.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/32 "2025-08-04T18:13:14Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> FWIW, I never watched either Insurrection nor Nemesis.

I like Insurrection more than any of the other movies since I’m not a fan of the zombie horror or the cringey Borg queen of First Contact. The most common complaint I hear about Insurrection is that it is too much like an episode (specifically “Homeward” from season 7) but that’s not an inherently bad thing. There is some cringe humor in it though, mostly courtesy of Data.

Nemesis was directed by a guy who had never seen any Star Trek and had no idea what it was. This is evident in the movie. Good special effects though.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/33 "2025-08-04T19:00:09Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> The most common complaint I hear about Insurrection is that it is too much like an episode (specifically “Homeward” from season 7) but that’s not an inherently bad thing.

The problem is it’s basically a 45-ish minute episode stretched out to almost 2 hours. It’s _boring._

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/34 "2025-08-04T20:11:04Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> The problem is it’s basically a 45-ish minute episode stretched out to almost 2 hours

So like _Star Trek: The Motion Picture_?

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/35 "2025-08-04T20:16:26Z")

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> [@echoreply](#):
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> So like _Star Trek: The Motion Picture_?

At least TMP is pretty to look at.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/36 "2025-08-04T20:25:26Z")

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> [@echoreply](#):
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> So like _Star Trek: The Motion Picture_?

Did you know that if you go out to the lobby when Scotty starts his Enterprise flyby, you can pee, buy popcorn and a pop and still make it back before they dock?

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/37 "2025-08-04T20:49:15Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> The problem is it’s basically a 45-ish minute episode stretched out to almost 2 hours. It’s _boring._

Right, it’s not that it’s like some specific episode that they already made. It’s that it’s like an episode, in general. Saving one specific planet from some of their former inhabitants who want to exploit a peculiar quirk of that planet is the stuff that episodes are made of. Saving the Earth, or Starfleet, or the Galaxy, is what you want from a movie.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/38 "2025-08-04T21:16:27Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Did you know that if you go out to the lobby when Scotty starts his Enterprise flyby, you can pee, buy popcorn and a pop and still make it back before they dock?

[Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMQTzYp756o).

I didn’t remember that TNG used the theme from TMP as their own theme.

Also, I’m watching the new season of SNW and it makes me realize just how bad James Doohan’s Scottish accent was. The new Scotty has a much better accent.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/39 "2025-08-04T21:41:17Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Also, I’m watching the new season of SNW and it makes me realize just how bad James Doohan’s Scottish accent was. The new Scotty has a much better accent.

The new actor is, in fact, Scottish, which would be why. 😃

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-chronology/1021659/40 "2025-08-04T22:17:51Z")

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Scotty’s not going to be born for over 200 years, who knows how the Scots will sound by then? After all 80 years later than that the French will have developed a rather nice RP accent.

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