# Star Trek Director's Editions **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 21, 2002, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198 "2002-10-21T06:41:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/1 "2002-10-21T06:41:46Z")
Are they going to do a _Star Trek V: The Final Frontier_? Is Shatner going to do the commentary? Is anyone going to buy it? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/2 "2002-10-21T06:57:15Z")
I’ll wait a few months and pick up a copy for free with 25 litres of gas at my local Shell station. I just got the DVD of _Wrath of Khan_ (we had a thread about this a while back) and the commentary track was more annoying than anything else. Harve Bennet didn’t really have any interesting anecdotes, just a lot of vague observations on directing a movie, which isn’t too surprising since he was asked to comment at length on a project he did 20 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/3 "2002-10-21T12:57:06Z")
Ah, Ekers, but you got to see the Nephew stuff. The wonderful observation Montalban made about villians, and his story about the script girl. ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/4 "2002-10-21T13:04:37Z")
I’ll buy it! Listening to Shatner explain that misstep away will be worth the price. If he gets to redo some of the special effects even better, how about missing scenes! I totally disagree about the commentary track, I found it quite facinating. It beats those done by Lucas and others who spout only about the technical side. (besides if you have Okuda’s written track running with it there is a nice full balance) ---
**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/5 "2002-10-21T15:21:15Z")
God. Don’t make me think about it. For completeness’s sake, I’ll have to pick up a copy…but… I can just imagine what a Shatner Director’s Cut will be like…redone special effects…and 50 minutes longer… _shudder_ ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/6 "2002-10-21T18:38:55Z")
All the scenes that were cut out! A longer version of the Uhura fan dance! Scotty runs into more things! Wacky highjinks as things on the ship don’t work! Extra hard core sex scenes between Kirk and a harem of dozens of women from the Planet of the Supermodels! ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/7 "2002-10-21T20:53:31Z")
Speak of the devil. Today, ol’ Wild Bill himself was a guest on the [Todd Mundt Show](http://www.toddshow.org/). He spent most of the show talking about death. From the way he talked, it sounded like someone had handed him a copy of _ **The Tibetian Book of the Dead** _. And this seems like as good a time as any to mention [The First Church of Shatnerology](http://www.shatnerology.com/)! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/8 "2002-10-21T22:36:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by slortar \* > \*\*God. Don’t make me think about it. For completeness’s sake, I’ll have to pick up a copy…but… > > I can just imagine what a Shatner Director’s Cut will be like…redone special effects…and 50 minutes longer… _shudder_ \*\* You may not be far off. Currently in the Trek rumor mill is talk of redoing the “god planet” sequence with CGI like they did for the Vulcan desert scenes in ST:TWAK. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/9 "2002-10-21T22:38:49Z")
:smack: Make that ST:TMP. not ST:TWAK (which should have been ST:TWOK). ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/10 "2002-10-21T22:47:57Z")
> [@](#): > > You may not be far off. Currently in the Trek rumor mill is talk of redoing the “god planet” sequence with CGI _Star Trek V: Special Edition_. Now with 63% less suck! ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/11 "2002-10-22T00:53:10Z")
Just so long as they leave in one of the best lines Shatner has ever delivered: > [@](#): > > What does God need with a starship? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/12 "2002-10-22T01:17:51Z")
I’d already seen the “nephew stuff.” There wasn’t _any_ footage in the DVD of TWOK that I hadn’t already seen, but I bought the disk anyway just because it’s by far my favourite _Trek_ movie. This is likely to be the case of any DVD of a movie more than 15 years old (i.e. before the home video market really took off). There won’t be a lot of extra footage, since nobody bothered to keep it, but you might get a few talk-show interviews that were recorded when the movie was released. Nimoy’s suit, for example, was worth a laugh. I think he had to finish up the interview quickly so he could get back to his day job selling Good Humor ice cream. The first major movie that threw in extra footage in quantity (that I know of) was _Aliens_ (1984) which had HUGE bonus material included on the laserdisk (proto-DVD) version. I’ll probably pick that one up, by-and-by, so long as all the extras are intact. The later _Trek_ movies might have some interesting extra footage, but I since I generally disliked all the movies after the fourth one, I can’t say I’m eager to make any more purchases. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/13 "2002-10-22T04:06:12Z")
What I want to know is, did the Director’s Edition DVD of _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan_ finally fix the most **glaring** error of the movie: The lack of a credit for Judson “Bennu” Scott as Khan’s right-hand man, Joachim? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/14 "2002-10-22T06:10:59Z")
Good question, I’ll have to check. I know they _didn’t_ fix the part where Joachim, already dead, reflexively closes his eyes when Khan hugs him. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/15 "2002-10-22T12:43:52Z")
Avenge me, my Aunt Sally! “You have Genesis”, I said. “Don’t go into the Nebula!” I said. Did you listen? “Shields and sensors will be useless”, I said. Did you listen? Now they’ve damaged the warp drive and the fine Corinthian leather, and I’m toast! Yours is the superior intellect? ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/16 "2002-10-22T17:31:03Z")
I heard ST3 has no deleted scenes in the new Collectors Edition coming out soon. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/17 "2002-10-22T22:39:30Z")
> [@](#): > > What I want to know is, did the Director’s Edition DVD of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan finally fix the most glaring error of the movie: > > The lack of a credit for Judson “Bennu” Scott as Khan’s right-hand man, Joachim? Nope. He’s still gets no credit. I wonder why? ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/18 "2002-10-22T22:46:35Z")
> [@](#): > > He’s still gets no credit. I wonder why? From [IMDb](http://us.imdb.com/Trivia?0084726): > [@](#): > > Judson Earney Scott’s lack of screen credit for his very large part as Joachim (Khan’s right-hand man) was the fault of his then-agent, who mistakenly opted to waive Scott’s credit believing that that would allow them to negotiate better credit placement later. You give something away, they’re not obligated to give it back. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/19 "2002-10-22T23:51:22Z")
I’m guessing that Judson got a new agent soon thereafter? ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198/20 "2002-10-23T13:28:29Z")
On this, I have no information. Other than the notable use of the “then-” construction when referring to the person responsible. 🙂 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-directors-editions/133198.md?page=2)