# Star Trek Discovery Episode 3

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 1, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737 "2017-10-01T15:33:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/1 "2017-10-01T15:33:57Z")

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Becomes available for streaming tonight. Use spoilers for a couple days.

Looks like this will be the “actual” pilot where we meet the titular ship and crew. It’s almost like if Ensign Ro were the main character and the first two episodes were the bad thing that happened in her past and episode 3 as her first day on the Enterprise.

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**Author:** ![ssgenius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@ssgenius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ssgenius)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/2 "2017-10-02T01:58:21Z")

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Definitely much darker than Orville.

Introduces the Discovery and the crew.

Move down for spoilers

[Spoiler]Discovery has Super-hyperspace capability[Spoiler]

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**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/3 "2017-10-02T02:42:06Z")

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This is definitely a stronger episode than the two prologue episodes. It’s kind of a shame that so many people aren’t going to watch this far.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/4 "2017-10-02T03:11:38Z")

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Man that really bites!! CBS should be ashamed.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/5 "2017-10-02T03:24:26Z")

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Still not available on broadcast TV I assume?

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/6 "2017-10-02T03:47:14Z")

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This episode was shitty. . .Star Trek. To me, anyway. Not bad sci-fi, though. I’m intrigued now. I just have to put aside that it’s supposed to be Star Trek, and I might like it. It still got off on the wrong foot in some ways, but that’s behind us. Let’s see if they can do better going forward.

If anyone’s still questioning if Michael’s foster father was Sarek:

Michael’s foster mother on Vulcan was human, and was named Amanda.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/7 "2017-10-02T10:33:10Z")

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I regret the distinct lack of optimism and brightness that are Trek hallmarks but having an Away team investigate a mysteriously disabled ship in the middle of space is about as Star Trek from a plot perspective as it gets. I liked this episode and I am intrigued by what is happening on the Discovery.

I have made peace with the cost of the service. I’m getting four episodes of new Trek a month for less than the cost of a movie. I can live with that.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/8 "2017-10-02T10:54:50Z")

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> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#):
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> This is definitely a stronger episode than the two prologue episodes.

I’m surprised so many people are saying that. I liked some aspects of this version of the show, but…well, put it this way. I started my CBS All Access subscription last Tuesday. After seeing the first two episodes, I was pretty excited for the third, and felt that it was highly likely I would pay the full monthly cost for the month of October at least, and then come back and pay for another stint in June.

Instead, I cancelled and am thinking I will maybe revisit next spring or summer when I can see the whole first season (both parts) off of one month’s fee.

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**Author:** ![tonyfop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@tonyfop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tonyfop)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/9 "2017-10-02T14:25:35Z")

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I have to agree with **Face Intentionally Left Blank**. Good Sci-Fi, not Star Trek. Which timeline is this supposed to be? I figured it was in the new, post-Nero timeline, which would allow them a lot of freedom when it comes to plot and story development, but it would still be before the ew-rek movies, and so would be reflected in them. It is just a mess.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/10 "2017-10-02T16:34:34Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> Still not available on broadcast TV I assume?

It is if you move to Canada. Space Channel plays it on Sunday nights.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/11 "2017-10-02T17:29:41Z")

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> [@tonyfop](#):
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> I have to agree with **Face Intentionally Left Blank**. Good Sci-Fi, not Star Trek. Which timeline is this supposed to be? I figured it was in the new, post-Nero timeline, which would allow them a lot of freedom when it comes to plot and story development, but it would still be before the ew-rek movies, and so would be reflected in them. It is just a mess.

It’s supposed to be in the Prime timeline (aka the original) though it’s set before TOS so the timelines are the same anyways (unless you want to get into the whole “Nero’s incursion caused ripple effects both directions” stuff). I agree that it’s a questionable choice, since setting it in the Kelvin timeline would’ve made a lot more sense from a storytelling freedom perspective.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/12 "2017-10-02T17:59:39Z")

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There are some hints here that I’m going to want to see where they end up, but overall, I don’t think I’d continue watching without the Star Trek-bonus.

[spoiler]I mean, the spore drive? OK, so I don’t expect hard sci-fi from Trek, but really—spores are connected throughout the galaxy, and you can somehow use them to fly faster than warp? What, the idea of basically stellar exploration-wrecking transporters from the Abrams movies was so good, they’re doing it again, only ten years earlier? But of course, we know it won’t come to anything, since the tech is never even hinted at later on.

I thought at first we’d be seeing the early stages of the Genesis device—I never liked that, plot-wise, but would have preferred it to the transporeter.

What I’m basing my hopes on is that it might turn out that the Klingons aren’t really the bad guys; instead, somehow Lorca is behind it all. It would help mitigate the current thread of Burnham essentially getting a new assignment because of her racism if the Klingons weren’t just actually all aggressive war-mongerers. I mean, there has to be some subversion here, right?[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/13 "2017-10-02T18:24:58Z")

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> [@magnusblitz](#):
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> It’s supposed to be in the Prime timeline (aka the original) though it’s set before TOS so the timelines are the same anyways (unless you want to get into the whole “Nero’s incursion caused ripple effects both directions” stuff). I agree that it’s a questionable choice, since setting it in the Kelvin timeline would’ve made a lot more sense from a storytelling freedom perspective.

I agree this episode was much better than the first two, and I’m willing to stick around to see how it develops. But two years after the events of “The Cage”? My luscious white ass! It looks more like 200 years after \*\*\*TNG \*\*\*to me. Why the hell couldn’t they have made it look like _ **Forbidden Planet** _ instead? :mad:

Yeah, I caught the Amanda reference. I wonder if they’re going to drag Sybok into the series as well. (Please, **NO!!!** ) :smack:

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/14 "2017-10-02T18:39:46Z")

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I also thought the way the captain’s death was referenced multiple times, while the random pilot apparently passed into the void without anybody really caring, kind of seemed a bit off.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/15 "2017-10-02T19:42:28Z")

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I had assumed Discovery rescued the pilot but since she never showed up again you could be right.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/16 "2017-10-02T19:55:04Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> This episode was shitty. . .Star Trek. To me, anyway. Not bad sci-fi, though. I’m intrigued now. I just have to put aside that it’s supposed to be Star Trek, and I might like it. \<snip\>

That’s exactly how I’m looking at it - I quite enjoyed that science fiction show called “Discovery” that I watched last night. Star Trek? Nope, their last show was “Enterprise.” 🙂

When they were describing the spore drive, I turned to my husband and said, “They’re building an infinite improbability drive?!?” :eek:

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/17 "2017-10-02T20:00:11Z")

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Also, what’s up with Captain Lorca having a tribble? They didn’t encounter tribbles for the first time until episode two of the original series, if my husband’s outrage is to be believed.

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**Author:** ![Anxious\_Squirrel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anxious_squirrel/32/1083_2.png) [@Anxious\_Squirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anxious_Squirrel)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/18 "2017-10-02T20:05:08Z")

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I don’t have anything new to say. I loved this episode just like I loved the previous two, and I’m excited to watch more. This is my first live trek show. I didn’t watch my first series until well after they had all gone off the air. And I have never made it all the way through an entire series. I feel like STD will be different!

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/19 "2017-10-02T20:09:23Z")

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> [@TheMysteryWriter](#):
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> I feel like STD will be different!

I shall refrain from comment… :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Anxious\_Squirrel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anxious_squirrel/32/1083_2.png) [@Anxious\_Squirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anxious_Squirrel)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/20 "2017-10-02T20:12:31Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> I shall refrain from comment… :dubious:

_titters_

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