# Star Trek Discovery Episode 3 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 1, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737 "2017-10-01T15:33:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![gregorio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@gregorio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gregorio)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/21 "2017-10-02T20:16:18Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Also, what’s up with Captain Lorca having a tribble? They didn’t encounter tribbles for the first time until episode two of the original series, if my husband’s outrage is to be believed. Lorca seems to have things that few people have encountered. Sooper seekrit spores, a real live mutineer, a mutant hell dog tasmanian devil type thingy. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/22 "2017-10-02T20:28:38Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Also, what’s up with Captain Lorca having a tribble? They didn’t encounter tribbles for the first time until episode two of the original series, if my husband’s outrage is to be believed. Okay, so I wasn’t hallucinating, he did have a Tribble! But from the scene at the end where he had collected the Big Bitey Thing that was on the other ship, it seems he’s keen to collect all sorts of potential bioweapons. Perhaps we’ll finally learn why Klingons and Tribbles hate each other so much. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/23 "2017-10-02T20:39:05Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Okay, so I wasn’t hallucinating, he did have a Tribble! > > But from the scene at the end where he had collected the Big Bitey Thing that was on the other ship, it seems he’s keen to collect all sorts of potential bioweapons. Perhaps we’ll finally learn why Klingons and Tribbles hate each other so much. Or will be the reason that they do. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/24 "2017-10-02T23:40:45Z")
I am boycotting CBS, I wouldn’t pay for AllAccess if were 2 pennys a month. It is just wrong! ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/25 "2017-10-03T00:07:17Z")
Well, I will boycott after Big Bang… ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/26 "2017-10-03T00:10:19Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Also, what’s up with Captain Lorca having a tribble? They didn’t encounter tribbles for the first time until episode two of the original series, if my husband’s outrage is to be believed. Season two, episode 15 (the 44th overall). ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/27 "2017-10-03T01:07:53Z")
Damm, I liked that episode. Who is the actor that plays the captain, Im sure I seen him on something else, but its not coming to me. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/28 "2017-10-03T01:13:55Z")
[Jason Isaacs.](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005042/) ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/29 "2017-10-03T01:16:03Z")
Speaking of Lorca, I will be surprised if it doesn’t come out that he’s part of Section 31, at some point before the end of the season. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/30 "2017-10-03T01:19:21Z")
> [@gregorio](#): > > Lorca seems to have things that few people have encountered. Sooper seekrit spores, a real live mutineer, a\*\* mutant hell dog tasmanian devil type thingy\*\*. I’m gonna think of that thing as a [Houndeye.](https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/half-life/images/9/94/Houndeye_Model.png/revision/latest?cb=20120915044358&path-prefix=en) With the weird creatures and the weird space-warping tech, it seems fitting to use a Half-Life reference. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/31 "2017-10-03T01:23:05Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > Damm, I liked that episode. > > Who is the actor that plays the captain, Im sure I seen him on something else, but its not coming to me. Draco Malfoy’s dad. He is interesting. I’m not sold on the new series yet. But it’s free on Space channel in Canada, so there’s that. So far, the Orville seems more like Star Trek than Star Trek does. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/32 "2017-10-03T01:41:34Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Draco Malfoy’s dad. He is interesting. I’m not sold on the new series yet. But it’s free on Space channel in Canada, so there’s that. So far, the Orville seems more like Star Trek than Star Trek does. Ahh, now it makes sense Thanks ---
**Author:** ![amijoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/839c29/32.png) [@amijoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amijoe)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/33 "2017-10-03T09:48:07Z")
I don’t like the universe building so far. As already pointed out, the tech is ridiculous, but my main complaint is how un-Roddenbury Burnham’s treatment is. It’s the 23rd century and Lorca confirms that hunger, pain and want are bygones. But life imprisonment is acceptable, rather than treatment and rehab. It’s socially acceptable to publicly refer to prisoners as ‘animals’ (I don’t believe that is currently acceptable). Humanity’s apparently cured most social ills but has disregarded the stellar work millenials have started in trying to treat people with basic respect and kindness. I get that this is a grittier Trek, but this doesn’t seem like a choice made by the writers, more like something that needed to happen to isolate Burnham. I am still loving the hell out of Burnham, though, and Saru is slowly growing on me like interstellar travel spores. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/34 "2017-10-03T14:03:59Z")
> [@amijoe](#): > > It’s socially acceptable to publicly refer to prisoners as ‘animals’ (I don’t believe that is currently acceptable). And they’re also being inconsistent with their treatment. The prisoners are “animals” who are held in contempt, but hey, let’s just let them eat in the crew mess along with everyone else, with no supervision or restraints, because that will work out fine, won’t it? ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/35 "2017-10-03T16:00:29Z")
OK, can someone explain why they are dumping the 8000-odd casualties on Burnham? Not just the other characters, but it seems she blames herself for them too. But didn’t her mutiny amount to absolutely nothing? She nerve pinched the captain, tried to “Vulcan Hello” the Klingons, but before anyone actually listened to her, the captain was up on her feet saying “belay that order” and sending her to the brig. It was all of, what, 5 minutes? and the Klingons didn’t open fire until after Captain Yeoh sent her message of peace, right? Or am I misremembering? the Shenzhou never actually fired first, did they? The only impact Burnham actually had on the war starting was killing T’kuvma and making him a martyr, and that was well after the battle. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/36 "2017-10-03T16:47:19Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > OK, can someone explain why they are dumping the 8000-odd casualties on Burnham? Not just the other characters, but it seems she blames herself for them too. But didn’t her mutiny amount to absolutely nothing? She nerve pinched the captain, tried to “Vulcan Hello” the Klingons, but before anyone actually listened to her, the captain was up on her feet saying “belay that order” and sending her to the brig. It was all of, what, 5 minutes? and the Klingons didn’t open fire until after Captain Yeoh sent her message of peace, right? Or am I misremembering? the Shenzhou never actually fired first, did they? > > The only impact Burnham actually had on the war starting was killing T’kuvma and making him a martyr, and that was well after the battle. The only other thing of consequence I can remember is that she killed the Klingon that was trying to kill her when she went to investigate the Klingon ship. Yeah, I thought that they were hanging a lot of shit on her that didn’t belong there. She mutinied, but it had no effect whatsoever on the war. It was over before she could do anything the Klingons would notice. Maybe everyone just needed someone to blame the war on, and since she committed mutiny at the time the war was about to start, she got blamed for it all. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/37 "2017-10-03T16:47:51Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > OK, can someone explain why they are dumping the 8000-odd casualties on Burnham? Not just the other characters, but it seems she blames herself for them too. But didn’t her mutiny amount to absolutely nothing? She nerve pinched the captain, tried to “Vulcan Hello” the Klingons, but before anyone actually listened to her, the captain was up on her feet saying “belay that order” and sending her to the brig. It was all of, what, 5 minutes? and the Klingons didn’t open fire until after Captain Yeoh sent her message of peace, right? Or am I misremembering? the Shenzhou never actually fired first, did they? > > The only impact Burnham actually had on the war starting was killing T’kuvma and making him a martyr, and that was well after the battle. Sense: you’re making too much of it! ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/38 "2017-10-03T18:37:18Z")
> [@TheMysteryWriter](#): > > I don’t have anything new to say. I loved this episode just like I loved the previous two, and I’m excited to watch more. This is my first live trek show. I didn’t watch my first series until well after they had all gone off the air. And I have never made it all the way through an entire series. I feel like STD will be different! Unfortunate that STD sounds like…well, STD! 😛 I like the dialogue that sounds different from other Trek, like Stamets mentioning that a family member plays in a Beatles tribute band. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/39 "2017-10-03T19:51:30Z")
Obligatory Trek Nitpick: In TOS Intraship beaming was a big deal that Scotty had to Jury-rig because it had never been done before and was dangerous (it was commonplace in TNG et al.). Here it was done casually. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737/40 "2017-10-03T20:25:40Z")
> [@TheMysteryWriter](#): > > _titters_ As in “A nervous titter ran through the courtroom”? 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-episode-3/797737.md?page=3)