# Star Trek Discovery Season 2 Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\
**Created:** [January 25, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363 "2019-01-25T03:18:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/41 "2019-02-14T09:48:14Z")

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What was the deal with usurper Klingon Kol-Sha needing L’Rell to sign his iPad so he could take over as chancellor? That’s how Klingons in this series take over empires? With their fucking signatures?

“You will sign, for I am Kol-Sha, of the House of FedEx!”

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/42 "2019-02-14T15:29:15Z")

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> [@zbuzz](#):
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> What was the deal with usurper Klingon Kol-Sha needing L’Rell to sign his iPad so he could take over as chancellor? That’s how Klingons in this series take over empires? With their fucking signatures?
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> “You will sign, for I am Kol-Sha, of the House of FedEx!”

“You have been served by Kor!! No…literally served.”

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/43 "2019-02-14T18:21:12Z")

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> [@zbuzz](#):
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> What was the deal with usurper Klingon Kol-Sha needing L’Rell to sign his iPad so he could take over as chancellor? That’s how Klingons in this series take over empires? With their fucking signatures?
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> “You will sign, for I am Kol-Sha, of the House of FedEx!”

But they do sign it using the Stylus of Kahless, forged in the fires of the volcano Kri’stak from a twist of his pubic hair.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/44 "2019-02-14T20:50:10Z")

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FWIW the Klingons in TOS were more scheming and underhanded and less Honor and staby staby.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/45 "2019-02-14T22:02:53Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> FWIW the Klingons in TOS were more scheming and underhanded and less Honor and staby staby.

Just rewatched “Errand of Mercy” SO GOOD…Jon Colicos is masterful and the Organians are so subtly alien and good

That’s what DISCO is sorely missing is fantastic guest actors aside from their named actors like Pike and No.1

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/46 "2019-02-16T04:37:51Z")

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Well, that’s not how I expected them to bring back Culber, but I’m happy they did it. (Was this the entire point of the May plotline? If so, worth it.)

He looked younger, to me, though…Wonder if that’s just from the lack of facial hair, or if they’re actually making him up to look younger since it’s a new body.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/47 "2019-02-16T04:45:20Z")

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In the latest one, I liked Pike’s reaction to his first exposure to a TNG-style communicator.

Also, the take-away quote from the episode? “What are you doing with your tiny finger?”

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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/48 "2019-02-16T08:23:45Z")

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When we saw Tilly in the cocoon, am I the only one who had a PTSD-inducing flashback to seeing Barb in the Upside Down?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/49 "2019-02-16T14:02:21Z")

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> [@zbuzz](#):
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> When we saw Tilly in the cocoon, am I the only one who had a PTSD-inducing flashback to seeing Barb in the Upside Down?

Nope - not the only one.

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**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/50 "2019-02-16T15:40:52Z")

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> [@DCTrekkie](#):
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> From bits and pieces I’ve picked up from various articles there was a lot of stuff forced onto the showrunners by the studio, and from Bryan Fullers original pitch. In particular the whole Klingon war idea, which is why they ignored it for half the season to go and visit the mirror universe. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were under orders to make things different and more futuristic than previous shows, with things like the holoscreens to show off some vfx.
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> Having been successful in the first season it seems like the showrunners have been given more freedom, and are trying to correct things. Killing some of the advanced tech will help, and I’m hoping the current klingon storyline will eventually get them more like the established Klingon culture. I still don’t like the Klingons as they are now, but they have improved over last season.
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> I am slightly concerned where they’re going with Section 31 though, it doesn’t seem secretive enough based on their DS9 appearances, but I am liking [Del] Emperor[/Del] Captain Georgiou.
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> Also, is no-one going to mention
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> Number One 😃

Yes, always a favorite of mine, a tribute.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y7ivoy3UptM/hqdefault.jpg "My Number (One)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7ivoy3UptM)

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**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/51 "2019-02-18T15:12:47Z")

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I have a feeling that at some point all of Disco is going to be wrapped up into Section 31.

We’ve always known that Section 31 uses tech that is not available/not known to the rest of Starfleet, and the spore drive is right up there: remember, the drive itself is classified and most of Starfleet doesn’t know it exists.  
Overall, this show has more of a DS9 feel than TOS or TNG, and I think that’s a good thing.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/52 "2019-02-20T19:50:08Z")

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This show just boggles my mind and not in a good way.

What is it about??? TNG was a continuation of TOS. Its mission right in the theme. DS9 was about the Bajoran station and changed its theme more than once getting better and better. Voyager we know exactly what that was about. St: Enterprise was a prequel and had so much potential. I hate that i wished it cancelled.

What is Discovery about? Name the leads and their role on the ship. Burnham. ??? Saru is second in command and science officer isnt he? Pike we know. Tilly is a cadet in training. Stammets??? Reno i guess will become Chief Engineer. Stammets BF is back and will reassume Chief Medical Officer?

Is Burnham Communications Officer? I guess thats a nice homage if true.

Who is android girl, African girl, eye prothstetic girl?

I guess the theme is solve the season mystery box?? That’s shallow IMHO.

DS9 changed a lot and like i said earlier for the better. If I ran DISC…I’d fold it into Pike’s NCC-1701. Have the ship Discovery destroyed in whatever incident directly preceded The Cage, the one Pike talked about retiring over. Fold DISCs leads into Enterprises known officers. SHIT MAN, maybe Discoverys eye prosthetic girls name is Yeoman Colt? Or make Tilly Colt.

Then after The Cage, third season on is just To Boldly Go. The Cage, WNMHGB and the very early TOS eps are great because of how raw everything looks and how Final Frontier it is.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/53 "2019-02-22T15:14:13Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Saru is second in command and science officer isnt he?

Saru is XO. He is not the Science Officer. Burnham is the science officer.

> [@Dale Sams](#):
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> Who is android girl, African girl, eye prothstetic girl?

Tactical (maybe), Navigator, Helm, respectively.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/54 "2019-02-22T17:01:21Z")

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> [@mlees](#):
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> Saru is XO. He is not the Science Officer. Burnham is the science officer.
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> Tactical (maybe), Navigator, Helm, respectively.

Thank you. Two days ago, the actress who plays “android girl” (I know she’s stated her name. Ill look it up now)…Airiam. Is that a pun? Air I am? Advanced Integrated Robotics I Am. Anyhoo…

The actress did a small promo on her twitter account. I responded, “You’re a full Lieutenant Commander…and we still don’t know anything about you. But we’re getting Saru’s sister??”

She ‘liked’ it. So at least my complaint has reached someones ear. Prosthetic ear.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/55 "2019-02-22T19:47:21Z")

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I’ve finally caught up with this season and I’m satisfied with how it’s going so far. Season 1 was great and so far, they’ve kept the quality high.

Among the positives: Great casting (generally), good acting and interaction, nice balance in the plots between action/tension and thoughtful issues in the Star Trek tradition. Everything looks great.

Michael Burnham is the best main character and the best actor to play a main character on Star Trek since … hmm … only William Shatner and Patrick Stewart were better.

Regarding casting, Anson Mount as Capt. Pike is brilliant. He didn’t have to be a near-ringer for Jeffrey Hunter for it to work (Bruce Greenwood worked too), but it’s amazing how much he is.

James Frain as Sarek and Mia Kirschner as Amanda are perfect. Seeing them in the roles doesn’t make me miss the original actors at all.

And speaking of that, kudos on the casting of Rebecca Romijn as Number One – perfect, gorgeous, and actually a better actor than Majel Barrett. Best stunt casting since Rainn Wilson as Harry Mudd.

“There are no fat people in the future”? … Thanks for wishing me and people like me out of my favorite show, dude.

I’m full of the tension of meeting adult Spock for the first time. Great stuff!

And continuity? Fuck that. Just make a kick-ass show for grownups and all will be forgiven.

My sole complaint: Tig Notaro. She’s just playing Tig Notaro. I drop out of the story every time she talks. I keep expecting her to make a quip about Taylor Dayne. Act gooder, Tig!

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/56 "2019-02-23T05:31:31Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> “There are no fat people in the future”? … Thanks for wishing me and people like me out of my favorite show, dude.

So, you wouldn’t take the pill or the genetic fix that would cure it? Those that wouldn’t take such a cure are the same ones that don’t take vaccinations now and wouldn’t be allowed to serve on a Federation Starship.  
Fatness like Downs syndrome will eventually be a thing of the past.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/57 "2019-02-23T12:05:48Z")

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Nm

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/58 "2019-02-23T12:09:00Z")

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Thanks for wishing me and people like out of any acting jobs on our favorite show.

Thanks for making it clear that you prefer a show in which we are non-existent it invisible. That’s not just a hypothetical sci-fi future but also affects our real lives in the present, knowing that people are wishing we just weren’t here.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/59 "2019-02-24T02:14:13Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Thanks for wishing me and people like out of any acting jobs on our favorite show.

Star Trek is about how humans have overcome their basest natures and achieved a future free from want where the goal of each person is to better themselves and society. And while I am sure you could gorge yourself on ice cream sundaes in the future to the point of corpulence, it is very unlikely that you could do so for a number of reasons. 1. Ice Cream Sundaes of the future would be zero calories, 2. You would have been genetically modified to not store excess fat, 3. There would be a pill to cure you being fat, 4. A doctor would commit you to a sanitarium to fix whatever desire you had to self harm yourself (or give you the pill to fix your psychosis).  
It isn’t about justifying your poor life decisions.

> [@](#):
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> Thanks for making it clear that you prefer a show in which we are non-existent it invisible. That’s not just a hypothetical sci-fi future but also affects our real lives in the present, knowing that people are wishing we just weren’t here.

I don’t wish you aren’t here, I wish you aren’t there. It takes me out of the moment when I see people running in a race, stopping to argue with their spoor friend (which they didn’t feel the need to report to a supervisor and which would have gotten them fired off of any ship I’d be in command of), and then passing obviously fitter ‘looking’ candidates to win. It is no different than the person with the artificial eye on the bridge. The medical tech is enough to rebuild an eye and remove any scarring in the future. Show the episode where she is fixed. Which means I’m pretty much against seeing disabled people in Star Trek as well. This isn’t Star Wars, where they bolt painful machines onto you when you lose a limb, but Star Trek where they use technology to help each other to live better lives.

You could be on that future star ship, but it would be a slimmer fitter you. Rule of thumb: if you can’t fit in a Jefferies tube, you can’t serve on a starship.🙂

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/60 "2019-02-24T02:50:54Z")

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The Saru episode was disappointing. His planet seemed to only have one person on it until the end and tell other race could have been more interesting instead of goopy evil looking aliens. Saru is one of my favorite characters on the show so I am hoping they don’t break him.

Pike still rules and I hope they figure out a way to keep him the rest of the series.

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