# Star Trek Discovery Season 2 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [January 25, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363 "2019-01-25T03:18:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/161 "2019-04-13T03:18:10Z")
I don’t remember Tilly’s Serene Majesty friend, Po, though she was in the “previously on Discovery” sequence. Am I forgetting something? As mentioned upthread, they really hit the ground running with the “Control” plot. I don’t remember anything about it, then there’s a couple minute meeting, then half the season is about stopping Control. Seemed a clumsy, abrupt plot change. ---
**Author:** ![HammerJoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a6a055/32.png) [@HammerJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HammerJoe)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/162 "2019-04-13T03:41:17Z")
This show went to the pits when it start meddling with time travel. I hate that. Since when has Star Trek been about time travel. What a mess the show has become. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/163 "2019-04-13T04:39:15Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > I don’t remember Tilly’s Serene Majesty friend, Po, though she was in the “previously on Discovery” sequence. Am I forgetting something? She was in the ‘short’ episodes - there were 4 of them and so far, 3 of the 4 have had direct relation to the season. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/164 "2019-04-13T04:43:21Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > I don’t remember Tilly’s Serene Majesty friend, Po, though she was in the “previously on Discovery” sequence. Am I forgetting something? The show decided that being on a minor subscription-based streaming service wasn’t obscure enough, so they brought in a character [from a web-only short](https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a27100087/star-trek-discovery-major-character-short-treks-spin-off/), which I didn’t know about until googling just now. The next step is to feature characers who starred in a Braille Bantu-language fan-fiction kept in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying “Beware of the Leopard.” ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/165 "2019-04-13T05:43:58Z")
Fuck trying to recrystallize dilithium, if they could get everything to run on Michael’s tears they’d have an inexhaustible power supply. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/166 "2019-04-13T14:26:54Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > The show decided that being on a minor subscription-based streaming service wasn’t obscure enough, so they brought in a character [from a web-only short](https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a27100087/star-trek-discovery-major-character-short-treks-spin-off/), which I didn’t know about until googling just now. > > The next step is to feature characers who starred in a Braille Bantu-language fan-fiction kept in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying “Beware of the Leopard.” Thanks. I think this will be news to a few people in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/167 "2019-04-14T09:34:43Z")
I’m thinking Jett Reno doesn’t make it to season 3. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/168 "2019-04-14T11:44:45Z")
Wait, is Spock going to the future with them? I guess that means they’ll be back. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/169 "2019-04-14T13:57:15Z")
As I told the wife last nite - when you have long tearful goodbyes, you always come back. It’s only when you declare your undying love and ‘we’ll be together forever’ that you don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/170 "2019-04-16T12:13:33Z")
Since when does everyone in Star Trek talk into smartphones to send messages? That said, the shorts were great (they aired on TV in Canada) and because of Calypso everyone watching knew the whole ‘Discovery is going to be destroyed’ wouldn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/171 "2019-04-17T05:45:05Z")
I don’t have a problem with a little schmaltz. Comes with the territory. But my god they laid it on thick here. The scene with Burnham’s adoptive parents was especially cringeworthy. And it was seemingly endless! I saw a theory floated on another site that given the unusual number of episodes (14 instead of 13) and that this makes people who subscribed on the day of the season premiere buy an extra month of CBSAA (by a single day), that they started with one season finale and padded it out to two episodes to make more money. I kind of hope that was the reason instead of it being purely a creative decision. Because that was terrible storytelling. And as that same site pointed out, if this isn’t paid off by actually losing Burnham, at least for a while, it will be really sickening to spend all that time saying farewell to a character who isn’t actually going anywhere. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/172 "2019-04-17T13:38:28Z")
So… somehow Sarek and Amanda were able to physically come out to the Discovery and say “good bye” to Burnham, but StarFleet couldn’t muster a few more ships to help fight Control? Or: Sarek knew their daughter was in enough deep water to fear for her, yet didn’t bother to let StarFleet know to send help? Ok, I can accept the need for Discovery to hard dock with the Enterprise to facilitate evacuating Discovery’s crew faster. But good god, that special effect they used with the unfolding gangways looked pretty dumb to me. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/173 "2019-04-17T13:41:32Z")
Is Season three going to be with the Discovery, Burham, Spock, and friends, marooned in the future, trying to prevent Control from grabbing the McGuffindata, and get back to their own time? I wonder if there is a connection between the borg, and Control. I saw a fansite/Youtube speculating along these lines. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/174 "2019-04-17T18:03:18Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Ok, I can accept the need for Discovery to hard dock with the Enterprise to facilitate evacuating Discovery’s crew faster. But good god, that special effect they used with the unfolding gangways looked pretty dumb to me. To be fair, the sound effects were even more stupid. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/175 "2019-04-17T19:23:46Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > So… somehow Sarek and Amanda were able to physically come out to the Discovery and say “good bye” to Burnham, but StarFleet couldn’t muster a few more ships to help fight Control? > > Or: Sarek knew their daughter was in enough deep water to fear for her, yet didn’t bother to let StarFleet know to send help? Sarek knew of Burnham’s dilemma based on her Katra - Sarek was seen on the beach ‘reaching out to her’ at the beginning of the episode, and it was stated in a prior episode he was the best at it. Recall, they used a similar technique when Sarek was injured/dieing in season 1 and Burnham was able to find him as well. As for informing the rest of Starfleet - well (a) stated in episode that ‘ship to ship’ was the only communication available as ‘subspace communications’ had been compromised and (b) while Sarek may have been able to know Burnham was having an issue -not sure there was sufficient detail there to warrant calling starfleet at the time. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/176 "2019-04-17T20:50:46Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Sarek knew of Burnham’s dilemma based on her Katra - Sarek was seen on the beach ‘reaching out to her’ at the beginning of the episode, and it was stated in a prior episode he was the best at it. Recall, they used a similar technique when Sarek was injured/dieing in season 1 and Burnham was able to find him as well. I recall that, yes. > [@](#): > > As for informing the rest of Starfleet - well (a) stated in episode that ‘ship to ship’ was the only communication available as ‘subspace communications’ had been compromised and (b) while Sarek may have been able to know Burnham was having an issue -not sure there was sufficient detail there to warrant calling starfleet at the time. But he knew where to rendevous with her? 😕 His segment on the beach was before they spore jumped to the fifth signal. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/177 "2019-04-17T20:53:04Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I recall that, yes. > > But he knew where to rendevous with her? 😕 The same way that Burnham knew how to find Sarek - ‘vulcan magic’ - or (offscreen) they called and got directions and told them not to tell Burnham. Its simply not covered in the episode any more direct than that. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/178 "2019-04-17T22:04:34Z")
> [@simster](#): > > The same way that Burnham knew how to find Sarek - ‘vulcan magic’ - or (offscreen) they called and got directions and told them not to tell Burnham. > > Its simply not covered in the episode any more direct than that. ☹ I guess I’m too dumb for this show. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/179 "2019-04-18T00:52:06Z")
The woo is strong with this show. OTOH, I don’t have a complaint about the docking. I like pretty much all the technical stuff on this show: CGI, set design, makeup, etc. It’s the writing and sometimes the acting that I have real trouble with. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363/180 "2019-04-18T05:02:22Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I recall that, yes. > > But he knew where to rendevous with her? 😕 His segment on the beach was before they spore jumped to the fifth signal. I thought the whole thing was very confusingly plotted. So, Discovery can jump any which where, yet somehow, Control always seems to find them, while Starfleet can’t, yet they could meet up with Enterprise, and Sarek could find them, if only to fly over, have a tearful goodbye, and then jet off again. I’m sure this can be made sense of somehow, but the show itself didn’t really seem to bother—it was just a set of scenes they wanted to show, connected by very loose threads. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-2-thread/828363.md?page=10)