# Star Trek Discovery Season 3 (Open Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [October 15, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007 "2020-10-15T12:29:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/141 "2020-12-20T06:14:52Z")
She was Empress of the Galaxy. This was achieved, I assume, with the information and technology USS Defiant provided. Not just a jumpstart on tech, superior to Earth’s neighbors but the location of any number of artifacts and useful civilizations and resources. Now that usefulness is probably greatly diminished in the time period they are in now, especially since David Cronenberg seems to have all kinds of info on the happenings of adjacent dimensions. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/142 "2020-12-20T08:04:43Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Its a testament to Michelle Yeoh’s abilities how she has been able to sell what has been _Silliest Maximus_ . When you see some of the silly shit she’s done in HK, this is just par for the course. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/143 "2020-12-20T09:09:43Z")
Those are _supposed_ to be silly. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/144 "2020-12-20T09:14:52Z")
But she _takes them seriously_, is my point. Watch something like _Silver Hawk_, where she’s a silver hot pants-wearing biking superhero, and she’s as serious about that as she is about Georgiou. Consummate pro. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/145 "2020-12-22T04:29:40Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Glad to see Giourgiou ultimately proved her mettle and redeemed herself by exhibiting some moral growth. You know, through trying to torture her assumed daughter into submission, loyalty, and betraying and killing her companions. Well, the CSI guy said she tried! In all seriousness I’m not sure the person who wrote Page 51 of the script bothered to read Page 32. For the first few minutes of the episode I thought “this might actually be okay.” Giorgiou being all Emperoresque would be fun. And then… it was all about Michael Burnham, once again! Burnham, Burnham, Burnham! Giorgiou was merciful to Burnham, to save Burnham! Her arc was trying to save Burnham! (And a little Saru.) Burnham saw her off though the Forever portal, with tears, but not before Giorgiou told Burnham how WONDERFUL she was! I’m starting to think someone in wthe writing team is actually trolling us. What was already bad about this show? - Obsession with Michael Burnham - Supporting characters with no purpose - Huge amounts of forced emotion, but lack of plot advancement - Storylines being forgotten about They’ve dialled everything up to 12. It’s like they read online comments sections and said “Well fuck you, you don’t like that? We’ll give you more!” > [@Cayuga](#): > > Why did she decide to make the 1,000-year jump? I don’t even remember if it was addressed at all. What are her duties on the ship? None. Nothing. Zip. Why do Saru and the others let her stay on the ship as a non-rent-paying freeloader? No fucking idea. I’ve been saying for two seasons that I have no idea why Giorgiou was on the show at all. Her character served no purpose at all, but it did serve the purpose of perfectly encapsulating the show at the end of this episode. It hit every bullet point above: 1. Though this scene is ostensibly about Giorgiou, it ended up focused, once again, on Burnham. 2. No one else gets to show any characterization; it’s all about a character that didn’t even have a job on the ship. 3. Everyone is acting all misty-eyed about a character who was never once shown to have engaged with any of them on a personal level, save Burnham. They are literally being asked to show lots of emotion based on something we are never shown or told about. It’s 100% forced emotion. 4. The bit about the lost Kalpien ship? Hello? Follow up on that please? Nope, we end with the silly Giorgiou memorial. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/146 "2020-12-24T15:12:33Z")
Well, they managed to come up with an outstandingly stupid cause for The Burn. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/147 "2020-12-25T03:58:02Z")
Well, suddenly the last two episodes look like Emmy Award Nominee material. Holy Shit that was bad - actually - worse than bad - its the kind of episode that makes the ‘Alternative Factor’ look _good_ in comparison. > [@RickJay](#): > > The bit about the lost Kalpien ship? Hello? Follow up on that please? Nope, we end with the silly Giorgiou memorial. Kinda fucking wish we had, now. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/148 "2020-12-25T04:16:14Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Well, they managed to come up with an outstandingly stupid cause for The Burn. That about sums it up. The only way it could get stupider is if they some how reverse the Burn. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/149 "2020-12-25T10:34:46Z")
The Burn was caused by a child’s night terrors? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/150 "2020-12-25T14:14:38Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > The only way it could get stupider is if they some how reverse the Burn. Tilly will personally reverse it next episode after everyone tearfully whisper-promotes her to Admiral. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/151 "2020-12-25T14:55:26Z")
_acting_ Admiral - until a suitable replacement can be found. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/152 "2020-12-25T15:33:55Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > 1. The bit about the lost Kalpien ship? Hello? Follow up on that please? Nope, we end with the silly Giorgiou memorial. This is all your fault @RickJay. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/153 "2020-12-26T09:42:29Z")
Watching right now, but Burnham’s worry about whether Saru would be objective is the howler of the season for me, so far. Really? You think other’s judgments could be clouded by their emotions…? ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/154 "2020-12-26T10:52:08Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Well, they managed to come up with an outstandingly stupid cause for The Burn. Did they ever, though. I’m not sure how the actor playing Culber actually managed to deliver his gobbledegook about how the body adapts and the radiation influenced the cells in utero and dilithium and something something and now somehow, that means that a child of an otherwise ordinary race (that is, not possessed of any of the Star Trek magic abilities) is able to influence all the dilithium in the entire galaxy with a straight face. Plus, apparently, not all dilithium was affected (including, apparently, all the dilithium closest to the source of the burn?), so why was some spared? Really, going with ‘a ~~wizard~~ Q did it’ might have been a better choice… ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/155 "2020-12-26T11:53:03Z")
…then again, how much of a good reason for anything should I really expect from a show where one of the central conceits is that spaceships can travel on magic mushrooms…? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/156 "2020-12-28T21:33:48Z")
Well, that was pretty awful. It’s a shame because at times it was okay. Them finding their way through the mind-bending simulation was pretty cool. The monster looked great. We briefly got to see people doing things without Burnham. And then it all went to shit. Did NOBODY on Discovery make any effort to resist the boarders? How the fuck did the pirate ship jump away? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/157 "2020-12-29T20:27:35Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > How the fuck did the pirate ship jump away? She was connected to Discovery by those mechanical tentacles. Osyraa seems to know an awful lot about Discovery, the spore drive, and just how to capture it. 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/158 "2020-12-30T04:19:36Z")
That was courtesy of Book’s “trust me, it’s safe” Emerald Chain wifi extender. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/159 "2020-12-30T04:33:06Z")
and a conveniently rescued andorian. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007/160 "2020-12-30T12:10:22Z")
So I trust that whenever they get Discovery back the first thing that happens is that Tilly loses the First Officer position? Because the first time she takes control of the ship she loses it to the baddies. That’s got to look bad on the CV. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-3-open-spoilers/923007.md?page=9)