# Star Trek Discovery season 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [November 19, 2021, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597 "2021-11-19T02:56:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/141 "2022-03-15T07:02:31Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > You know the episode I’m talking about, right? The one where all of that happened? Remember? > > No? Must have been a Picard and Riker episode then. I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/142 "2022-03-17T16:04:18Z")
Trek cameos: Melvin Belli Stephen Hawking David Cronenberg …Stacey Abrams. Kinda come full circle on that. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/143 "2022-03-17T19:01:00Z")
And so, the aliens are defeated by the power of friendship. You know, the aliens with a hive mind, no concept of individuality and also a complex language. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/144 "2022-03-17T19:46:26Z")
They rapidly progressed to some pretty complex speechifyin’ at the end of the alien interaction. They went from trying to communicate simple thoughts, concepts and emotions to full-on moralizing in just a few hours. Thinking through how to construct simple sentences to clearly communicate what they needed was too boring for TV, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/145 "2022-03-17T19:53:07Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > Thinking through how to construct simple sentences to clearly communicate what they needed was too boring for TV, I guess. And oddly enought- the part I found most Trek like - better than calling a vulcan to mind-meld. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/146 "2022-03-18T00:38:55Z")
Yeah, it brought back memories of Kirk moralizing, at length, to aliens at the end of most episodes. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/147 "2022-03-18T01:39:36Z")
What utter dreck. The last 2.5 episodes were, in some ways, the best they’ve done. Right up until they brought book back - and saved the general. That rightfully pissed me off. I kinda liked Book’s speech - and yeah, no one else could have made it (in context) - but seriously - there is never any ‘cost’ to this show. And of course - they get a ride home on a wormhole vs having to pull a voyager. And we see why Burnham hasn’t cried much this season - she was saving it all up for that scene. Overall season - a 3/10 - bits of the last 3 episodes - 9/10 - last 30 minutes - 1/10. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/148 "2022-03-18T02:06:36Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I kinda liked Book’s speech - and yeah, no one else could have made it (in context) - but seriously - there is never any ‘cost’ to this show. I don’t know—if Book had tried just a wee bit harder at the very end to avoid the Federation spacecraft near Earth where the wormhole came out, maybe they would not have pinched his hi-tech ship, which presumably `cost’ him. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/149 "2022-03-18T10:18:29Z")
Fine return to form after a few good epiodes. The bit with the 10C was awesome Everything else was pure un-adultered bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/150 "2022-03-18T10:20:02Z")
> [@simster](#): > > And we see why Burnham hasn’t cried much this season - she was saving it all up for that scene. Was bored so rewatched a few Season 1 episodes, and Burnham barely cried at all, unless she had reason to. Like when she was in actual pain trying to rescue Sarek. If anything she was a stoic. Did the writers in season 2 decide that waterworks would sell well|? ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/151 "2022-03-18T16:32:11Z")
I really enjoyed the end of this season (I was a fan of S1 and did not like S2 or S3 much). The figuring out how to converse with the 10-C was really entertaining. I was a bit roll eyes with Book’s return, but I guess stasis-ing his beam is… an ok-ish reason. But hopefully this means he leaves and just becomes a cameo character. I think the President saying that Burnham is now qualified to be a Voyager captain (I think I heard that right) means they’ll have a more exploratory S5. ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/152 "2022-03-18T16:42:41Z")
I really liked the concept of the 10C, the politics of the federation in contacting a new species, and the drama regarding Book contacting them after they killed his planet. Those are the stories I enjoyed. The Burn, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/153 "2022-03-18T17:41:59Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > The figuring out how to converse with the 10-C was really entertaining. I was a bit roll eyes with Book’s return, but I guess stasis-ing his beam is… an ok-ish reason. I would have been beyond shocked if the preserved Book thing didn’t happen exactly like it did. It was predictable from a thousand miles away. As for the language and the language problems I admit that they tried, but like in most things _Disco_, compared to masterful written SF it is like _Discovery_ is scribbled down in crayon by kindergarteners. (Compare it, for instance, to _[Embassytown](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassytown)_). ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/154 "2022-03-21T07:03:18Z")
Just to clarify since I haven’t been watching: are they still nine centuries in the future? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/155 "2022-03-21T07:42:44Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > (Compare it, for instance, to _[Embassytown](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassytown)_ ). Or more on point, compare it to [Darmok](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Darmok_(episode)). ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597/156 "2022-07-25T19:26:26Z")
Yes… I keep trying to get into the show and its just so so…bad. The Sci-concepts are solid, but there’s just so much overwrought bullshit writing written by the Inspirational Speech Bot Machine 3000. (Also see the latest PIC S3 trailer) Its ridiculous you have shows with such massive production value and writers that poor. I can’t even watch clips without rolling my eyes. Give me more David Cronenburg interrogating Empress Hitler and less “No one knows if the Federation is still around but I’ll be damned if I let things stay this way!!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597.md?page=7)