# Star Trek DS9 Documentary

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** documentary-bio, star-trek-paramount\
**Created:** [March 12, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033 "2019-03-12T22:30:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/21 "2019-05-06T21:15:08Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Bump…this will be showing at a theater near me on Monday! [Anyone else going?](http://https://www.fathomevents.com/events/what-we-left-behind?fbclid=IwAR3ehwkyjqnOGhajHPy4FtqvKoW0o3qCUtkyiqx8h1Xd0BbfneXGqZSPbas)

Had to cut down the url, but yes. Don’t think we can meet up since we’re on diagonally opposite sides of the country, though.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/22 "2019-05-06T21:27:59Z")

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Hmmm…let’s try this [link](https://www.fathomevents.com/events/what-we-left-behind).

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/23 "2019-05-06T21:54:35Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Bump…this will be showing at a theater near me on Monday! [Anyone else going?](http://https://www.fathomevents.com/events/what-we-left-behind?fbclid=IwAR3ehwkyjqnOGhajHPy4FtqvKoW0o3qCUtkyiqx8h1Xd0BbfneXGqZSPbas)

Can’t. I’m leaving for Moscow on Sunday. Damn! :mad:

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/24 "2019-05-06T23:21:48Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> The work of Marc Alaimo and Andrew Robinson was to me the high point of the show. I’ve seen neither be as good before or since.

I remember being somewhat blown away when I found out that Garak was also the killer in the first Dirty Harry movie.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/25 "2019-05-07T00:46:32Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Bump…this will be showing at a theater near me on Monday! [Anyone else going?](http://https://www.fathomevents.com/events/what-we-left-behind?fbclid=IwAR3ehwkyjqnOGhajHPy4FtqvKoW0o3qCUtkyiqx8h1Xd0BbfneXGqZSPbas)

I’m going to my local theatre.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/26 "2019-05-14T21:14:08Z")

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There was a bit of a glitch at the theater…it didn’t start on time and when it did start it was about 20 minutes in, but they backed it up and started over. I also got a poster.

I really enjoyed it. My favorite parts:

Five of the writers, including Ron Moore and Ira Steven Behr, brainstormed what the first episode of season 8 might be and I loved what they came up with.

A little girl asked Avery Brooks what his favorite mission was and he answered, “Raising Jake.”

Andrew Robinson said the first thing Garak should have done was have sex with Bashir, then take it from there. Behr said they should have explored Garak’s sexuality more, but being the 90s, I guess they couldn’t push the envelope beyond Dax meeting up with her former wife.

Terry Farrell also touched on why she left before the final season and it seems she’s still upset. She says she got a “take it or leave it” offer and even went to the head of Paramount to talked to him about it.

It seems they crowd-funded the doc and converting some of the footage to HD, which is apparently quite the heavy lift.

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**Author:** ![Alpha\_Twit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alpha_twit/32/265_2.png) [@Alpha\_Twit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpha_Twit)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/27 "2019-05-14T21:32:36Z")

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Unfortunately, it’s not playing anywhere near me so I’ll have to wait.

Is there any reason to believe it will not be available for purchase as a legal download soonish?

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/28 "2019-05-15T00:10:50Z")

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> [@Alpha\_Twit](#):
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> Is there any reason to believe it will not be available for purchase as a legal download soonish?

They made it seem like a One Time Only, but if you go to Indiegogo and search for Deep Space Nine it will come up. The campaign has closed, but they raised several hundred thousand dollars. There might be more information about getting the blue ray.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/29 "2019-05-15T13:37:44Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Andrew Robinson said the first thing Garak should have done was have sex with Bashir, then take it from there.

And this is why I continue to love that man. (I used to write G/B fanfic back in the '90s.)

I haven’t seen this documentary yet, but I’m really looking forward to it. DS9 was my favorite Trek and I still watch my old DVDs occasionally.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/30 "2019-05-15T15:34:55Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Did you see Shatner’s documentary _The Captains_? I did enjoy it even though he of course made it all about himself. It was interesting to see how each one of them reacted to Shatner. I get the impression that Stewart finds him hilarious. Brooks came off as being very intense and very strange.

He’s just…not linear.

I was an early backer of the DS9 film and got to go to the premier event in New York a few months back. (In addition to Ira Behr, Ethan Phillips showed up to do 10 minutes of Borscht Belt schtick.)

The doc really is wonderful, including cast and crew interviews, a hypothetical brainstorm of what a season 8 premier might be, brand new HD transfers of select scenes, animations, and fan perspectives, all cut together in a very entertaining and nostalgic way. There is reportedly a _ton_ of extra stuff which will be released with the DVD as well.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/31 "2019-05-15T15:55:57Z")

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I didn’t know it was Ira’s wife Laura who came up with Transporter Accident to explain Nana’s real life pregnancy. It also appears Nana and Siddig are still good friends.

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/32 "2019-08-08T01:19:10Z")

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Bump

Bumping to let anyone know who’s interested, this doc is available now on Amazon instant video.

Enjoy!

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/33 "2019-08-08T01:44:50Z")

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Oooh!!! 😃 I didn’t see this was coming out.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/34 "2019-08-08T01:49:25Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> There was a bit of a glitch at the theater…it didn’t start on time and when it did start it was about 20 minutes in, but they backed it up and started over. I also got a poster.
> 
> I really enjoyed it. My favorite parts:
> 
> Five of the writers, including Ron Moore and Ira Steven Behr, brainstormed what the first episode of season 8 might be and I loved what they came up with.
> 
> A little girl asked Avery Brooks what his favorite mission was and he answered, “Raising Jake.”
> 
> Andrew Robinson said the first thing Garak should have done was have sex with Bashir, then take it from there. Behr said they should have explored Garak’s sexuality more, but being the 90s, I guess they couldn’t push the envelope beyond Dax meeting up with her former wife.
> 
> Terry Farrell also touched on why she left before the final season and it seems she’s still upset. She says she got a “take it or leave it” offer and even went to the head of Paramount to talked to him about it.
> 
> It seems they crowd-funded the doc and converting some of the footage to HD, which is apparently quite the heavy lift.

Just saw this on the bumped thread. Garak is one of my favorite characters. It’s interesting that Andrew Robinson says they should have explored Garak’s sexuality more. I had the impression that Garak was asexual, but I guess I was wrong about that.

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/35 "2019-08-08T13:16:52Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> Just saw this on the bumped thread. Garak is one of my favorite characters. It’s interesting that Andrew Robinson says they should have explored Garak’s sexuality more. I had the impression that Garak was asexual, but I guess I was wrong about that.

He had a minor thing with some official’s daughter.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/36 "2019-08-16T19:58:43Z")

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Bump…this is now streaming on Amazon Prime.

Dammit…ninja’d. Anywho…

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/37 "2019-08-16T20:36:23Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> It’s interesting that Andrew Robinson says they should have explored Garak’s sexuality more. I had the impression that Garak was asexual, but I guess I was wrong about that.

In his first appearance he was omnisexual, and obviously attracted to Bashir. This aspect of the character was not explored in subsequent episodes.

https://thatshelf.com/what-we-left-behind-deep-space-nine-star-andrew-robinson-on-the-new-star-trek-doc-garak-cardassian-sexuality-doctor-bashir-and-irony-in-trek/

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/38 "2019-08-16T20:47:43Z")

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Ira et al didn’t give themselves a high grade in portraying homosexuality because he said they only did the one episode, the one where Jadzia meets her former wife. They said the one where Quark dressed in drag was played as a joke (I cringed at that because it also portrayed sexual harassment being played for laughs. Sometimes I wonder if the actors do too when they get the scripts) but they also had the Opposite Ezri being gay and attracted to Leeta. I wonder if Behr forgot about that one.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/39 "2019-08-17T01:31:51Z")

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Well, that’s disappointing. I thought that streaming on Prime meant it was included. Instead, it’s on regular Amazon as a five buck rental.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-ds9-documentary/831033/40 "2019-08-17T17:31:47Z")

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Oh, it isn’t? I searched for it on Prime and it popped up, so I thought that meant I could stream it. Is it possible you weren’t logged in?

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