# Star Trek Enterprise 3x18 Azati Prime (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2004, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299 "2004-03-03T14:09:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/201 "2004-03-20T04:11:31Z")
> [@Wearia](#): > > I suppose this is the right place to put this. > In so far, I don’t know what I’m going to do. $5 is hardly unreasonable, but as some others I don’t own a credit card, and thus no PayPal. > > Also the whole suddenness of this decision rubs me the wrong way. I know they have been entertaining ideas of subscription fees for a while. However it is the 19th today and according to the ATMB post the update is on the 22nd. Three days hardly seems like a reasonable amount of time. It seems like they administration sprung this on us. I know there is a 30-day margin of error, but I’m sure some will sign up before then for fear of losing their post count etc. > > Also, my impression is that the major change to the board will be the payment. It doesn’t look like we will be receiving anything new for our fee, other than a service they have been giving for free for the past 5 years. I understand that the board is expensive to maintain, but what has changed from prior years? Has the period of grace from the Chicago Reader run out? > > In this thread and other people have expressed fear at losing the diverse amount of people you get from a free board. Sure, an open door policy gets you trolls, but it also brings in others who would have otherwise turned been turned away. Those others can be informative, insightful, or just plain good people. Additionally, as the flow of newbie’s slows to an almost stop, the community stagnates with the same group of people. With the quality of people currently on the dope this isn’t a huge concern. But I have noticed in recent times, especially in GQ, that those that have been posting there for a long period of time no longer bother giving good responses. They just say, No you’re wrong, or yes you’re right, then don’t bother giving any more information. I fear that without new people this will be an increasingly common occurrence. > > Furthermore, I post very little. And what I post is hardly ever significant. It is nice to be able to give my opinion, but it is just one among many and I doubt my input has ever had a drastic effect. In other words I don’t see my absence being too great of a loss. > > Well thus far I haven’t made any choice either way. It is a great community and one I would like to be a part of, but I am still apprehensive about the path this new decision leads to. _KHAAAAAAAAAAN!_ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/202 "2004-03-20T04:16:44Z")
Fine, Wearia. I’ll see Trek early all by myself. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/203 "2004-03-20T04:25:05Z")
Well, I was just going to put a link, but that works too. Now that I reread that post, it makes me rather sad. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/204 "2004-03-20T04:36:50Z")
:mad: ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/205 "2004-03-20T04:48:39Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > [Shameless self promotion.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4663000#post4663000) I paid $4.95 for _this_? Just practicing… ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/206 "2004-03-20T05:01:06Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > :mad: 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/207 "2004-03-20T05:18:08Z")
> [@Wearia](#): > > > [@Aesiron](#): > > > > :mad: > > 😕 > [@Wearia](#): > > …I don’t know what I’m going to do… …the whole suddenness of this decision rubs me the wrong way… …I post very little and what I post is hardly ever significant. It is nice to be able to give my opinion, but it is just one among many and I doubt my input has ever had a drastic effect. In other words I don’t see my absence being too great of a loss… …I haven’t made any choice either way. It is a great community and one I would like to be a part of, but I am still apprehensive about the path this new decision leads to. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/208 "2004-03-20T07:36:28Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Okay, I’m thinking some more about this and while I assume the most prolific of us ( **NCB** , **viva** , **tracer** , **cplant** , **Cervaise** , me) will stay, what about the guys that are regulars alongside us but don’t post anywhere near as often, like **Linus** , **Corner** , and **Wearia**? We’ve already lost **Kn\*ckers** and the threads haven’t been quite as enjoyable since. > > Damn it… the senior staff can’t take much more. I will be leaving. I am not paying an annual subscription. If it was one time only then i would, but not annually. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/209 "2004-03-20T07:44:37Z")
You can’t be serious. Are you? If so, this fucking sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/210 "2004-03-20T07:56:18Z")
i am serious, i am not paying for an annual subscription, i would pay for a one time fee, but not a constant fee. That’s why i’m not a subscriber at Ars technica (annual fee) but am a member at something awful (one time fee) ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/211 "2004-03-20T07:59:47Z")
Christ. These threads and you guys are 90%+ of the reason I’ve stuck around the past year and a half. If our group splinters, I’ll have no reason to stick around myself. ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/212 "2004-03-20T21:03:08Z")
Well, I may have negotiated use of a friends credit card. Although I still have no idea how PayPal works, so I’m not exactly out of the woods yet. So, best case scenario, I’m sticking around for another year. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/213 "2004-03-20T21:34:36Z")
_ **Best** _ case scenario? You intend to only stick around until April 2005? I contacted \*\*Tars \*\* last night after his post and he is almost positively leaving… we don’t need you to go AWOL on us in addition to him. Speaking of which, where the hell are \*\*Linus \*\* and **Corner**? We haven’t heard from them. \*Or \* the other more prolific regs I only assumed were staying. **Viva**! **Tracer**! **Cervaise**! We need a roll call! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/214 "2004-03-21T02:26:07Z")
N.I.F.S.T.D. That’s all I can say for now. (I’m still waitng for an answer) ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/215 "2004-03-21T02:28:43Z")
Noxiously irrititating Ferengi sexually transmitted disease? ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/216 "2004-03-21T06:33:03Z")
??? As I indicated in **Aes’s** Pit thread, I have no idea what’s going on. Sheesh, guys, I spend one damn day at a Danish food festival\*, I come back and the thread has spun off into some $4.95 discussion…Okay, am I supposed to be paying right now? Is anyone going to notify me? When does it start? I’ll do it, of course. P.S. UPN will announce its fall schedule on May 20. \*There was beer. Wine. Beer. Aqvavit. And oh yeah, some food. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/217 "2004-03-21T06:35:02Z")
Never mind, I just saw the info. No problem. I rarely pay attention to notes and stickies. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/218 "2004-03-21T06:40:24Z")
**Aes** ’s? Shouldn’t that be **Aes** ’? By the way, I’m very relieved to see you’re staying if you had left in addition to Tars, I’m not sure I would have even bothered to stick around myself. Yeah. I use this board almost exclusively for these threads. All the other discussion is just the mint icing on the cellular peptide cake. Going to make something of it? ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/219 "2004-03-22T01:13:24Z")
It was fun. Oh, my… ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/220 "2004-03-22T01:17:47Z")
I told \*\*NCB \*\* to post this in one of the threads but he didn’t so I’ll do so instead. \*\*Tars \*\* (and \*\*Wearia \*\* {and all the rest who might be interested and/or are leaving}), go [here](http://go.ezboard.com/bnoclueboysincrediblyfreneticstartrekdiscussions). And **viva** , is your AIM malfunctioning? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299.md?page=12)