# Star Trek Enterprise 3x18 Azati Prime (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2004, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299 "2004-03-03T14:09:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/321 "2004-04-02T05:04:06Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > I am a Grammar God(dess). > > I liked Keating/Malcolm long before this incident. I had probs with how his character was being written earlier in this arc. But, he’s getting better. I like the guy, esp now that I know he’s a goof! Like way back in time, when I met Sulu… I never thought too much of his character (except in two different eps. GUESS WHICH ONES!), but when this impresioionable young lad actually met George, well, I was truly impressed. He took the time to talk to a 14 yr old geek, me, about Sci-Fi in general, not just Trek stuff. He is a fan and he knows his stuff. That was 1977, y’all. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/322 "2004-04-02T05:11:25Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Now that you mention it though, I did have a huge crush on my sophomore English teacher. Still do, actually. She was a Trekkie too! I had a crush on my semaphor teacher. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/323 "2004-04-02T05:22:37Z")
Wow. This is the first thread I’ve started that has gone on for 7 pages! And I can take full credit for that, because I know that it was my brilliant and sparkling OP that prompted this thread to be so popular! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/324 "2004-04-02T05:29:21Z")
We’ve still gots a ways to go before this becomes _Cease Fire II: The Wrath of **Yosemite** _. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/325 "2004-04-02T05:42:54Z")
Crap…That’s exactly the way the link was reported in the ST Communicator. But I just looked and it’s dead. Ah, well. The Cease Fire thread was about 34 pages, right? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/326 "2004-04-02T06:41:06Z")
34 pages. pshaw I had one post go 34 pages in my “Predict the” thread. Over 3k posts and over 100 pages. Yeah, those were the days my friend We thought they’d never end… ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/327 "2004-04-02T07:20:26Z")
Since I was bored, I decided to do a little investigating and discovered that of the 100 most posted in threads in CS, that 20, or one-fifth, are ENT threads. Also, of the 31,685 posts in those threads, 5,708, or 18% are ENT. I broke it down even further by looking at each thread and seeing how many times each of us posted in it and compiled the numbers to see who has posted what percentage and this is what I have come up with: ENT to Thread Ratio : 20/100 = 20% ENT to Post Ratio : 5708/31685 = 18% **Aesiron** : 19/20 : 1013/5708 - 18% **athelas** : 11/20 : 21/5708 - 0.003% **carnivorousplant** : 20/20 : 876/5708 - 15% **Cervaise** : 18/20 : 115/5708 - 02% **Corner Case** : 4/20 : 66/5708 - 01% **Kn\*ckers** : 14/20 : 304/5708 - 05% **Linus Van Pelt** : 17/20 : 186/5708 - 03% **NoClueBoy** : 19/20 : 1052/5708 - 18% **Tars Tarkas** : 20/20 : 496/5708 - 09% **tracer** : 18/20 : 258/5708 - 05% **vivalostwages** : 19/20 : 828/5708 - 15% **Wearia** : 18/20 : 97/5708 - 02% **yosemitebabe** : 2/20 : 8/5708 - 0.001% **Everyone else** : 20/20 : 388/5708 - 07% The first fraction is the number of threads posted in, the second the number of posts, and the third number is the percentage that each of us made in the ENT threads. I need that job ASAP. =/ ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/328 "2004-04-02T15:11:24Z")
**Aesiron** , 1. Congratulations on the new and future jobs. 🆒 2. I need to increase the size of my … submissions. 😛 3. I’m on a T1 and can’t get good enough response to search for such statistics\*. Too bad such perseverence isn’t easily represented in a resume. 🆒 4. I like DKMR now that his character is being fleshed out :eek: more. I think they all need exposure to the Psi-2000-Virus[sup]TM[/sup] to allow them to explore their characters some more. - I was looking for one of the weekly Enterprise threads by searching for “Enterprise”, but I couldn’t find it. I had to search on **carnivorousplant** to locate it. The title had, IIRC, “Enterprise:” so the search engine didn’t see it. ☹ [sub]NB: I and Mrs. Case love ER too. We would like to see Neela and Gallant get together.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/329 "2004-04-02T17:25:23Z")
> [@Corner Case](#): > > **Aesiron** , > I had to search on **carnivorousplant** to locate it. [/sub] Now that’s damned embarassing. I hope you found my explanatory post on high density particle physics and the discussion of homophobic influences in the writings of Charle Sand in relation to late Victroia economic practices. ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/330 "2004-04-02T17:33:51Z")
I didn’t know Charles Sand listened to victrolas. Ya learn something new everyday. Though, searching outside the SDMB I did find [this](http://www.carnivorousplants.org/cultivars/cpncultivars/v29.html) ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/331 "2004-04-02T18:04:08Z")
Doing a search on my name outside the Dope brings up like 300 hits, all but one about me. I’m an internet whore, obviously. Thanks for the kind words, **Corner**. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/332 "2004-04-02T18:31:30Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Since I was bored, I decided to do a little investigating and discovered that of the 100 most posted in threads in CS, that 20, or one-fifth, are ENT threads. Also, of the 31,685 posts in those threads, 5,708, or 18% are ENT. > > I broke it down even further… My God, man. And I thought _I_ had no life. It sounds like you aren’t even making time for _porn_ with all your little statistical figurings. Is everything all right? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/333 "2004-04-02T18:39:48Z")
Six months with no job + living with others while having no bedroom to lock the door or even porn to look at = lots of free time. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/334 "2004-04-02T19:53:37Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Now that’s damned embarassing. > I hope you found my explanatory post on high density particle physics and the discussion of homophobic influences in the writings of Charle Sand in relation to late Victroia economic practices. That was a _Voyager_ episode, wasn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/335 "2004-04-02T20:10:05Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > That was a _Voyager_ episode, wasn’t it? I think it was a TNG episode, wasn’t it?. After they stopped Moriarty the first time, on the holodeck, Data and Geordi conjured up the rest of Victrolian England. You know, that scratchy, sputtery musical where Deanna goes round and round trying to teach Data how to pronounce contractions. He succeeds and she shouts, “By Geordi, I think you’ve got it!” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/336 "2004-04-02T20:27:23Z")
Gibson wept. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/337 "2004-04-02T20:29:46Z")
nO, IT WAS A CROSSOVER tos/tng EP WHERE tRELANE TELLS kIRK, “bY jOVE,\* I think you’ve got it!” Picard rushes in to inform them that “We don’t have religion in the 24th and a half thentury.” Then Kirk asks, “What does God need with a bald man?” And Stewart replied, “At least they don’t have to dress me in high heels and lifts because I, unlike you bastard Canadians, am of normal height!” Grace Lee Whitney revealed her rocking past as a drummer for aan acid metal band in Toronto, which caused Dom to drop his pants and “Request an autograph.” \*short for Jehovah, of course. Ow! Who’s throwing stones?! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2004, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/338 "2004-04-02T21:11:34Z")
[For Viva](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4713635#post4713635) ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/339 "2004-04-03T06:29:13Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > [For Viva](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4713635#post4713635) Awwwww…Dat’s so sweet! I’m savin’ that sucker for poster(ior)ity. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299/340 "2004-04-04T07:33:45Z")
> [@http://www.trektoday.com/news/020404\_01.shtml](#): > > Former Star Trek: Deep Space Nine executive producer Ira Steven Behr revealed that he had consulted with the producers of Star Trek: Enterprise, but they never followed up on the initial conversation. > > A Chicago Tribune weblog by Maureen Ryan (in place of regular columnist Eric Zorn) to promote DS9’s arrival on Spike TV next Monday, April 5th, quoted Behr from an interview Ryan conducted for an article on the state of genre television. > > Much to Behr’s surprise, reported Ryan, Enterprise executive producers Rick Berman and Brannon Braga called Behr to ask his opinion on the show’s faults. > > “They sent me some episodes,” Behr told her, admitting that he had not watched the series before that. “For about two hours, I gave them my opinion, and they said, ‘Thanks, we’ll be in touch.’” > > Behr never heard from them again, despite having given them what he thought was “a very clearheaded critique of what the show needed to do to fulfill its premise.” > > He described the conversation as “very civil” but said that he was uncomfortable. He recommended deepening the characters, and added, “Obviously, what I said…they didn’t agree with,” because they adapted none of his suggestions. > > Still, Behr said he takes no pleasure from fan dissatisfaction with Enterprise, believing that anything that hurts the Trek franchise wounds the legacy of DS9. “I gave eight years to that little pop culture phenomenon…it brings me no joy when I read about ‘Star Trek’ being talked of in a derogatory sense.” More reason to love Behr and not Berman or Braga. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-3x18-azati-prime-spoilers/232299.md?page=18)