# Star Trek Enterprise: Chosen Realm \[spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 14, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335 "2004-01-14T02:11:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/101 "2004-01-16T23:25:31Z")
Looney Toons does Enterprise! With Elmer Fudd as Archer: “Be vewy, vewy quiet. I’m hunting Xindi!” The Abominable Snowman as Dr. Phlox: “It’s a fascinating new species. I will hug it and squeeze it and call it George” Marvin the Martian as Reed: “Oh, goody. My new illudium pew 36 explosive space phaser!” Wile E. Coyote as Mayweather: “\_\_\_\_\_\_\_” And Daffy Duck as the Vulcan Ambasador: “You humans are dethpicable!” ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/102 "2004-01-17T00:31:35Z")
> [@Tars Tarkas](#): > > Mormon? No way, it’s clones all the way. I have 5 Hoshi clone wives myself. And let me tell you, all i hear is yak yak yak (since they all speak 6 million forms of communication each) Sorry to break it to you but Hoshi #3 converted to Mormonism about a year ago and she and I have been living the high life on Deneb. We got a nice deal on a ranch far away from the swamps and the pesky slime devils (she said they remind her too much of you) and are expecting twins next month. She said to send her alimony payment. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/103 "2004-01-17T00:42:26Z")
Wait, I thought SHE was supposed to send the alimony… ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/104 "2004-01-17T00:51:36Z")
The judge was an old family friend. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/105 "2004-01-17T02:30:35Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > The judge was an old family friend. Wait a minute, _ **I** _ was the judge! ---
**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/106 "2004-01-17T11:35:04Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > P.S. Are **Cervaise and Jervoise** related? Yes. Along with **Mauvaise** we form a spandex-clad, butt-kicking, chain-smoking, babe-rescuing, foul-mouthed, wire-fu, heart-of-gold crime-fighting trio! Now excuse me, I have to go adjust my costume. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/107 "2004-01-17T16:01:06Z")
I, for one, am very happy about our Trek Doper threads getting back to the normal pattern of parody and hijax. I was getting a little worried there… ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/108 "2004-01-17T19:30:31Z")
It’s still not the same since \*\*Kn\*ckers \*\* left us though. I say that the next Ensign that’s assigned to our merry little ship should be forced to dress in drag (or if it’s a woman, never wear pants) and allow us to labor under the illusion that she has finally been reassigned. Or maybe make \*\*cplant \*\* do it… he likes wearing **Mrs Plant** ’s knickers already anyway. It’s the only way the cosmic balance will ever be restored. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/109 "2004-01-17T20:43:54Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Or maybe make \*\*cplant \*\* do it… he likes wearing **Mrs Plant** ’s knickers already anyway. Have you been to the “Four Dice” bar in Fordyce, Arkansas? Come on down. We can talk out back. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/110 "2004-01-18T01:05:28Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > No problem, W. I will take another look to see if it’s the turncoat, but by god, it sure does look funny. If it is him, then why does he have to feign unconsciousness? He’s no help that way. Not to beat this too much into the ground, but I did take several more looks and I think the turncoat might have dropped to the floor as soon as Reed n’ Macos stormed the bridge, so he was still conscious. I just don’t see why he couldn’t have started shooting his fellow pirates himself. And how did T’Pol know she could trust him to hand over his weapon? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/111 "2004-01-18T02:29:33Z")
Telepathy? ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/112 "2004-01-18T02:52:50Z")
I know it’s way too late for a serious reply to this thread (I’d forgotten all about this being the week of a new episode until I went back and reviewed my tape), but I don’t agree that the “nine days vs. ten days” thing is too silly as the basis for a religious schism. One of the major causes for the great schism between the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox branches of Christianity was officially the “filioque” clause: Western Christians proclaimed that the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father _and_ the Son, whereas Eastern Christians said that the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father alone. (And let’s not even get in to homoousianism versus homo **i** ousianism.) Remember, the guy who said that line was a former True Believer who had become disaffected from the faith and was increasingly convinced the man he had once revered as a prophet of the gods was leading them all into disaster. It’s easy to imagine it was more of a bitter quip than a serious theological statement, and he was both over-simplifying the theological issues and also leaving out that the ten-dayers mainly came from the Eastern Continent while the nine-dayers were from the Northwestern Landmass, and they spoke different languages, and the theological questions had festered along with various political and economic issues and cultural differences for centuries until the Grand High Pooh-Bah excommunicated the Great Panjandrum and vice versa and brought about the final breakdown into open warfare. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/113 "2004-01-18T03:21:48Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > I… > [a very good point] While that back story works for me, I doubt that Bergama were trying to be that subtle. If the line had been, “A meaningless difference of philosophy” it would’ve worked better for me. But, hey! Did you like the episode? ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/114 "2004-01-18T03:44:29Z")
Yeah, I liked it. It wasn’t subtle, but since when has Star Trek ever been subtle? ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/115 "2004-01-18T04:02:29Z")
Not to hijack any more than usual… All right, everyone. I have been to About This Message Board. I have been to FAQ. I have searched the Edit Options. And I still cannot find something that will leave the cookie intact. And when I get these thread links in Hotmail and I click on them, I can see the thread just fine, but I cannot, cannot, CANNOT successfully log in from there. I have to go to the site and log in there instead. Is this part of the new interface, or have I missed something critical that would allow me the email shortcuts that I used to enjoy? I didn’t want to ask this in ATMB because they’d probably tell me to go read all the stuff I already read. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/116 "2004-01-18T06:25:32Z")
Sometimes it lets me reply via hotmail, other times it doesn’t. I’ve not noticed any rhyme or reason to it though so I’ve got no advice to give. Oh, and anyone who hasn’t seen “The Last Samurai”, should. I watched it this afternoon and it’s already ranked among my favorite movies… even beating out all the Trek movies. :eek: And anyone that dismisses it based on Tom Cruise’s involvement alone is dumber than a Pakled. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/117 "2004-01-18T07:38:20Z")
I dismiss it because of Cruise, and because of the “White Man needs to show the Asians how to fight” thing. That is a story that doesn’t need Tom Cruise whiting it up. I did see Triplettes of Belleville today. See it. It deserves to win the Best Animated Picture Oscar. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/118 "2004-01-18T08:42:51Z")
The Asians show the white man how to fight, not vice versa. Although the white man does show them sound battle tactics™ that allow them to fight off a larger force far longer than they should have. Unless, of course, you’re referring to the Emperor contracting American soldiers to teach them in the use of firearms and then modern warfare, which I am unsure of the historical validity of, but see no issue with it otherwise. Mercenaries were common in centuries past. And people that dismiss a movie based on the actors therein annoy me. Cruise isn’t that horrible of an actor… I could understand if it was a total ham in the role but he’s perfectly acceptable. It just baffles me. Anyway, with all that being said, the film was by no means without flaw. Like any other movie, the protagonist was an ubermensch that lived through things that Batman would have trouble preparing for and living through. Then there was the impossibly unrealistic resolution where the entire story is practically made moot but I love it regardless. It was just a beautiful film. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/119 "2004-01-18T19:02:37Z")
What really threw me was the Korean subtitles. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2004, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335/120 "2004-01-18T20:58:16Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > What really threw me was the Korean subtitles. What’s throwing me on ENT is all the subtitles in Beagle every time Porthos barks. Hey…Hotmail let me in here today without an endless series of log-ins. **Aes** , there truly is neither rhyme nor reason. I’ll betcha that tonight’s ENT rerun will contain promos for “Proving Ground,” airing this Wednesday. If it does, I’m leaving a message for UPN about the obvious necessity of showing promos on Wed. nights as well. It will be one of the only first runs this week, since almost every TV show is either not on at all or is airing a rerun. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-chosen-realm-spoilers/224335.md?page=7)