### Author:  [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/1 "2005-02-02T21:24:34Z")
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> Star Trek: Enterprise will come to an end following the airing of an as yet untitled series finale on May the 13th, 2005.
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> UPN and Paramount today jointly announced the show’s cancellation. “Star Trek has been an important part of UPN’s history, and Enterprise has carried on the tradition of its predecessors with great distinction,” UPN Entertainment president Dawn Ostroff said. “We’d like to thank Rick Berman, Brannon Braga and an incredibly talented cast for creating an engaging, new dimension to the Star Trek universe on UPN, and we look forward to working with them, and our partners at Paramount Network Television, on a send-off that salutes its contributions to The Network and satisfies its loyal viewers.”
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> Paramount Network Television president David Stapf added, “The creators, stars and crew of Star Trek: Enterprise ambitiously and proudly upheld the fine traditions of the Star Trek franchise. We are grateful for their contributions to the legacy of Trek and commend them on completing nearly 100 exciting, dramatic and visually stunning episodes. All of us at Paramount warmly bid goodbye to Enterprise, and we all look forward to a new chapter of this enduring franchise in the future.”
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> TrekToday sources report that CBS president Les Moonves himself yesterday reached the decision to pull the plug on Enterprise. Most Enterprise crew members only found out about their show’s cancellation this morning.
[http://www.trektoday.com/news/020205\_04.shtml](http://www.trektoday.com/news/020205_04.shtml)
Sigh. It wasn’t the best Trek by any means but it was improving by leaps and bounds over the past two years and was easily better than Voyager, a series that went its full seven seasons on the same station, ever thought of being.
That it’s being cancelled so late in the game won’t even give the writers enough time to give it a proper send-off either.
While I realize a lot of people, many Trekkies included, don’t like the show at all, I’m still going to miss it and am infuriated by the decision to let it go, especially when the station has nothing else on it that pulls respectable numbers except for the idiotic _America’s Next Top Model_ bullshit.
Fuck UPN.
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### Author:  [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/2 "2005-02-02T21:27:54Z")
By the way, mods, if my last sentence was too much for CS and would warrant a move to the Pit, please delete that instead of moving the thread.
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### Author:  [@the\_Lady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_Lady)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/3 "2005-02-02T21:29:55Z")
This bites.
I had my complaints, but it was still a good show.
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### Author:  [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/4 "2005-02-02T21:30:11Z")
At least they didn’t cancel it after the season finale.
I wonder if Berman and Bragga will be moved off the Paramount Lot?
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### Author:  [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/5 "2005-02-02T21:32:39Z")
At least it lasted longer than the original series. \ This is partly my fault…I’m pretty much never home in the early evening during the week. I used to catch the show on Saturdays, but since my local UPN station moved the repeats around, I never do anymore.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/6 "2005-02-02T21:33:06Z")
Well, shit.
How long until UPN pulls the rest of its non-Afrocentric shows, thereby living up to its nickname?
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### Author:  [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/7 "2005-02-02T21:37:32Z")
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> I wonder if Berman and Bragga will be moved off the Paramount Lot?
I’m convinced tey have some very nasty photos of someone important. And given Hollywood, it has to be very, very naughty.
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> How long until UPN pulls the rest of its non-Afrocentric shows, thereby living up to its nickname?
Sorry? Didn’t catch the reference?
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### Author:  [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/8 "2005-02-02T21:41:48Z")
Wondering…
Is this just a setup for a new series of movies?
They’ve screwed the TNG movies to hell and gone. DS9 movies are never going to happen.
So…there ya go.
-Joe
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### Author:  [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/9 "2005-02-02T21:42:49Z")
I’ve been a Trekker since the sixties. Although “Enterprise” wasn’t my favorite incarnation of Trekdom, I enjoyed it and will miss it.
Maybe there’s some slim chance that “Enterprise” might become a syndicated show, or be picked up by the Sci-Fi cable channel.
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### Author:  [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/10 "2005-02-02T21:54:17Z")
> [@pinkfreud](#):
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> I’ve been a Trekker since the sixties. Although “Enterprise” wasn’t my favorite incarnation of Trekdom, I enjoyed it and will miss it.
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> Maybe there’s some slim chance that “Enterprise” might become a syndicated show, or be picked up by the Sci-Fi cable channel.
Actually, I’d expect to see it on Spike since they’re already running all the others.
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### Author:  [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/11 "2005-02-02T21:57:43Z")
I doubt we’ll see it on Spike as their treatment of DS9 makes it clear that they don’t particularly care about the franchise sans TNG.
I don’t even know why Spike has any Trek on it in the first place. It doesn’t exactly fit in with pro wrestling, James Bond, Japanese game shows, and 80s action movies.
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### Author:  [@Kilt-wearin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilt-wearin_man)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/12 "2005-02-02T21:59:51Z")
Kinda sucks - even the craptastic theme song was starting to grow on me. This might be the final nail in the franchise’s coffin, thanks to Berman and Braga.
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### Author:  [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/13 "2005-02-02T22:02:55Z")
I just recently started watching the show - the first one with Data’s ancestor was the first one I’d seen, and I was kinda getting into it. That sucks.
At least I’ll still get to find out what happens with the RC Romulan spaceship that looks like the gooberfish from TPM.
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### Author:  [@jeffh3000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeffh3000)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/14 "2005-02-02T22:06:47Z")
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> I doubt we’ll see it on Spike as their treatment of DS9 makes it clear that they don’t particularly care about the franchise sans TNG.
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> I don’t even know why Spike has any Trek on it in the first place. It doesn’t exactly fit in with pro wrestling, James Bond, Japanese game shows, and 80s action movies.
I got the impression that Spike is trying to make Star Trek appear more “sexy” based on their “the women of star trek” ads. I did think that trek seemed a bit out of place for this network.
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### Author:  [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/15 "2005-02-02T22:17:20Z")
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> I don’t even know why Spike has any Trek on it in the first place. It doesn’t exactly fit in with pro wrestling, James Bond, Japanese game shows, and 80s action movies.
You forgot CSI.
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### Author:  [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/16 "2005-02-02T22:31:39Z")
Spike wanted to corner the geek guy market. The Sci-Fi Channel wasn’t doing it at all.
I find _Enterprise_ to be less than engaging for some reason. It has no memorable breakout characters like Spock, Bones, Worf, Data, the first Dax, the Doctor or Seven of Nine. And the plots were much less than innovative. It is well that it has to go.
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### Author:  [@rorty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rorty)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/17 "2005-02-02T22:32:32Z")
Is there any particular reason why this show was canceled? I had a UPN sales rep give a presentation to one of my marketing classes last year and he said that **Enterprise** was their most watched show by their target male demographic ( **America’s Top Model** held the target female demographic). Maybe the show was too costly? Or the network is taking another direction? It just seems bizarre.
I’d like to see SciFi pick up the series as well.
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### Author:  [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/18 "2005-02-02T22:48:05Z")
> [@Zebra](#):
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> I wonder if Berman and Bragga will be moved off the Paramount Lot?
THey deserve a lot worse than this for screwing up the franchise. I suspect a “Fuck Berman and Braga” Pit thread will start soon.
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/19 "2005-02-02T22:50:05Z")
It doesn’t matter if the show is their highest rated if it’s also their most expensive. A show that pulls in 30% more ad dollars will be a loser even compared to a program that draws half the audience but costs twice as much to produce.
Speaking for myself, I saw this as pretty much inevitable, and while it’ll be disappointing in the short term there are some major organizational problems behind the scenes that need to get worked out. If not having Trek on the air for two years or five is what it takes to get the Bermaga out and completely revamp the artistic environment, that will be a positive step in the long run. Yes, the show was displaying signs of creative life recently, but it’s pretty obvious they’re still humping a dead horse and fighting with themselves; the friction on the sets is a fairly open secret. In some ways, the recent improvement may have been achieved despite the problems, rather than as a result of those problems being addressed.
I’d probably feel worse about this if we didn’t already have _Battlestar Galactica_ as a more-than-worthy holder of the “best SF on TV” crown. 🙂
So I’m sorry, guys, but I’m not going to be participating in any rescue effort. The problems with the franchise are chronic and systemic and I’m of the opinion that a break at this point is unavoidable for getting those problems addressed. I’d much rather let the cancellation happen and _then_ weigh in with the “what we expect from a revitalized franchise” debate. See my long post in the middle of page two of the current “Babel One” thread for one aspect of my opinion on improving Trek’s storytelling, for example.
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2005, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/20 "2005-02-02T22:51:57Z")
> [@Cervaise](#):
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> A show that pulls in 30% more ad dollars will be a loser even compared to a program that draws half the audience but costs twice as much to produce.
On review, this sentence sucks Targ cloaca. I hope my intended meaning was clearer than my wretched construction. I’ll restate it if anyone is confused.
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