# Star Trek: Enterprise Has Been Cancelled **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 2, 2005, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045 "2005-02-02T21:24:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![sweetfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@sweetfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweetfreak)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/21 "2005-02-02T23:05:40Z")
_Star Trek: Enterprise will come to an end following the airing of an as yet untitled series finale on May the 13th, 2005._ That’s just rude. How come the series finale is airing on my birthday? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/22 "2005-02-02T23:16:50Z")
> [@smiling bandit](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > How long until UPN pulls the rest of its non-Afrocentric shows, thereby living up to its nickname? > > Sorry? Didn’t catch the reference? " **U P** eoples’ **N** etwork, not that I refer to it as such. I first heard it on Drew Carey’s “Whose Line” and it seems to get more appropriate as time passes. ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/23 "2005-02-02T23:27:47Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > I’d probably feel worse about this if we didn’t already have _Battlestar Galactica_ as a more-than-worthy holder of the “best SF on TV” crown. 🙂 Yup, as if Enterprise didn’t have enough to bother about with the glut of other SF on the box, some of the other series are actually quite good too. I never really got into SG as much as Trek but it held my interest as much (or a bit more) and then BSG showed up. > [@Cervaise](#): > > So I’m sorry, guys, but I’m not going to be participating in any rescue effort. The problems with the franchise are chronic and systemic and I’m of the opinion that a break at this point is unavoidable for getting those problems addressed. I’d much rather let the cancellation happen and _then_ weigh in with the “what we expect from a revitalized franchise” debate. See my long post in the middle of page two of the current “Babel One” thread for one aspect of my opinion on improving Trek’s storytelling, for example. And I’m with you on that account too. Give it a few years (yes, I’m prepared to wait that long) and have someone give it the treatment BSG’s been given now 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/24 "2005-02-02T23:47:01Z")
OK, I love Trek and have done since I was a wee tot watching the TOS at 7:30 on Tuesday nights on WSM Nashville back in the 60s, so consider that I love the show when I say. . . Let Star Trek die. . . forever. Let this be the end. It’s a a universe about which there is just no more to be said. Originally, Gene Roddenberry set up the show to be a thinly veiled critique of 1960s American society, something he couldn’t do with conventional drama on network television but that he could sneak past the censors if he covered his socal criticism with a science fiction veneer. Under the Bermaga regime, that insightful goal was totally abandoned for shoddy, poorly thought-out thrillers. Let there bve new universes, new ideas, new characters. Trek needs to be put to sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/25 "2005-02-02T23:52:27Z")
I agree that Trek is getting a little on in years, is not as profound as it used to be, and would actually have no problem with Enterprise being the end of this universe \*if \*it were allowed to go the customary seven seasons and we got closure instead of the games we’ve had to endure from UPN the past two years. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/26 "2005-02-02T23:57:11Z")
Enterprise wasn’t my favorite SF show, but I enjoyed it. Oh well. The shows I like are frequently cancelled anyway (Firefly, John Doe, WonderFalls…) so I should get used to it. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/27 "2005-02-03T00:15:24Z")
I’m still waiting for the All Trek Channel to show up on cable somewhere. With all the series, movies, specials, and DVD extras, we could have a pretty good channel. Sure, it would end up reapeating, so switch up what gets shown on primetime. That would be something I would be willing to pay for. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/28 "2005-02-03T00:18:12Z")
One of the biggest pluses for TNG was that it was produced for syndication. That way, each market could put it where it needed to be. In our market, for instance, it was on Sunday nights at 10:40pm on the local NBC affiliate. Sunday night’s news had an extended sports weekly for the extra ten minutes. Following the first run TNG show were repeats of TOS and later on in the run repeats of early TNG. In talking to a local exec at a party one night, she told me that they abosolutely owned Sunday nights for those 3 to 4 hours for seven straight years, virtually a total market share for their broadcast area. But now, Paramount and UPN are tied in to a set production schedule and are competing for a market share as tho they were a major network. Hence, their complaints about the very real problem of low viewership. They should’ve syndicated this show from the get go, but the Bergama Follies were the real bane of this series. Idiocy loses viewers. ENT Season II was the worst Trek ever, and this series never had a chance after that. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/29 "2005-02-03T00:41:35Z")
Paging Bjo Trimble…you’re needed again! ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/30 "2005-02-03T00:45:50Z")
This really sucks. Enterprise was definitely one of the better incarnations of Trek. If I had to rank them, I’d probably do it like this: 1. TOS\* 2. TOS (Movies) 3. TNG and Enterprise, tied 4. All the others a distant fourth. \*This evaluation of TOS is admittedly heavily influenced by sentiment, but also in recognition of its trailblazing nature, and what they were able to do technically in the days of such primitive FX. ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/31 "2005-02-03T00:53:31Z")
Well, this sucks. The show was just hitting its stride, too. I had high hopes. When do the Spock-eared hoareds storm the Paramount lot brandishing torches demanding the heads of Bermen and Braga? 'Cause I’ll be there. Won’t wear the Spock ears, though. Aw, who am I kidding? Of course I’ll wear the Spock ears! In conclusion, this sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/32 "2005-02-03T01:05:19Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > But now, Paramount and UPN are tied in to a set production schedule and are competing for a market share as tho they were a major network. Hence, their complaints about the very real problem of low viewership. Apparently, UPN has not realized that they are **not** a major network and currently don’t have much chance of competing with the big boys… not for a while. In fact, for the first few seasons, I recall a whole bunch of new shows they attempted in the time slot after Enterprise, all of which quickly died. Jake 2.0… the new Twilight Zone… Some sci-fi cop show with some gnome guy helping the good guys (not always voluntary) – I forgot the name of it… > [@](#): > > ENT Season II was the worst Trek ever, and this series never had a chance after that. Yep – and sadly, season 2 **started out** with a couple of good episodes, but then went into rapid decline. That episode with Trip and the bad-actress-snotty-princess chick should just be burned and erased from the archives. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/33 "2005-02-03T01:11:02Z")
What bothers me is that they had the opportunity to make a Trek series with a completely unique point of view, showing the formation of the Federation and the creation of some of the coolest elements like Phasers and Transporters and the antagonistic formation of alliances and enemies, but instead they totally muffed it by writing episodes that were completely interchangeable with any of the other series. ---
**Author:** ![SiouxChief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@SiouxChief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiouxChief)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/34 "2005-02-03T01:14:12Z")
I like the show, and watch it regularly. I love seeing the development of this time frame in the ST universe. Yes, there is room for improvement, and yes, I think it is time for new blood in the Star Trek executive producer’s chair. I’m hoping SciFi buys the rights to Star Trek on condition that Berman and Braga LEAVE. Enterprise must live! By the way, after posting a pro-Enterprise comment on UPN’s website feedback page, it jumped to CBS!! D’ya think they copied the HTML for CBS’s page and didn’t update it? No-one is that stupid, right? You’d think that little bug would be uncovered by the first person to test it… ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/35 "2005-02-03T01:39:27Z")
Meh. The show just ain’t that great. It’s better this year than it was, certainly, but even the best part of the season (the Soong arc) was only as good as an average TNG episode. I think four years is enough time for a show to get on its feet. Given the fact that the last Trek movie blew and the series prior to Enterprise wasn’t very good (although it was more enjoyable as mindless action than Enterprise ever was), I can’t say I’, too unhappy. Anyway, I think that Trek is enough of a force that it’ll come back eventually. With luck, it’ll be with someone else at the helm who can put together a better show. Meanwhile, BSG is already a better show than either Enterprise or Voyager and the Firefly movie is coming out in a few months, so there’s enough TV sci-fi to look forward to. (Some folks I know say Stargate: Atlantis is pretty good too.) Trek will be back someday. Until then, I won’t miss it as long as Enterprise is the best they could come up with. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/36 "2005-02-03T01:50:48Z")
I’m just sick and sad right now … can’t really think of much to post. I’ve been a TREK fan since TOS in the 60s - I don’t want to see the Trek franchise come to an end! I’ve enjoyed all of the series (save Voyager) and thought that this season they were making a good turn around. Personally, I blame the “Bermaga” team for the ruination of _Enterprise_; nearly every episode that they had a part in had something that was just wrong with it. And last season with the Temporal Cold War Crap was the absolute pits! I too wish that they would have given it a full term run of seven years. I will miss the entire cast, but especially John Billingsley (Phlox) and Conner Trineer (Trip). And of course the beagle(s) who play Porthos. _sighs_ I am going to go through my Trek literature this weekend, and then spend some time on [amazon.com](http://amazon.com) checking through some more titles, I guess. This is very depressing!!! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/37 "2005-02-03T01:54:07Z")
Won’t someone think of the puppies!? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/38 "2005-02-03T02:01:00Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Won’t someone think of the puppies!? Hell, won’t someone think of the pandas? ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/39 "2005-02-03T02:02:57Z")
Another vote for giving the ST franchise a rest, for at least 5 years. There was a gap of almost 20 years between TOS and TNG, the movies notwithstanding, and letting the audience lay (lie?) fallow for an extended length of time would surely be a good thing. The focus of a returned series would likely have to be on a given starship, and the audience at large, fans aside, doesn’t give a damn. They’ve seen it for the better part of another 20 years, and seen it done not very well in many instances. A new series should be something (that feels) _new_, not a general retread of something they saw last year. _Absence makes the heart grow fonder_ is an axiom for a reason. In conclusion, when come back bring pie. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045/40 "2005-02-03T02:03:17Z")
Just when I had coined the phrase “Gratuitous Trek Reference” GTR ™. _Dammit_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-has-been-cancelled/288045.md?page=3)