# Star Trek: Enterprise (Season 3) - What were they thinking? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 12, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-season-3-what-were-they-thinking/449038 "2008-05-12T16:19:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-season-3-what-were-they-thinking/449038/21 "2008-05-24T13:31:22Z")
[QUOTE=drewbert] FWIW, Coto had virtually nothing to do with the final episode. [/QUOTE] That’s good to know. The DS9 ending Also seemed to do everything possible of preventing a movie or continuation in any form, dispersing the characters and transforming Sisko into a worm hole alien. ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-season-3-what-were-they-thinking/449038/22 "2008-05-24T13:52:25Z")
> [@](#): > > The DS9 ending Oh, GAG! What atrocious garbage! I was sorry I watched it. A friggin’ feel-good montage with everyone reminiscing to redunculous tidbits of the past years … Barf. What a hackneyed way to end a war. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-season-3-what-were-they-thinking/449038/23 "2008-05-24T14:04:01Z")
[QUOTE=Gorgon Heap] What atrocious garbage! [/QUOTE] Well, yes, but Garak had a great line. He shoots Weyoun and the female changling says, “That was the last Weyoun clone.” Garak replies, “I was hoping you would say that.” ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-season-3-what-were-they-thinking/449038/24 "2008-05-24T19:33:31Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] When they resorted to cheap T&A like having Hoshi and T’Pol smear antibacterial goo on each other, or made an episode that actually condoned torture (around the time of the Abu Ghraib controversy), I turned it off and never went back [/QUOTE] In the UK a new digital channel has its hands on Trek in the UK and they advertise Enterprise solely with clips of the goo smearing 😛 [QUOTE=bouv] Well, at least the Mirror universe episode was pretty cool. [/QUOTE] That was nice and might even have played out well as a short arc. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-season-3-what-were-they-thinking/449038/25 "2008-05-24T19:46:25Z")
Didn’t we refer to that here as “panda” all the time? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-season-3-what-were-they-thinking/449038/26 "2008-05-24T22:14:05Z")
[QUOTE=drewbert] FWIW, Coto had virtually nothing to do with the final episode. That was Berman and Braga’s ‘valentine’ to the fans, as they called it. Jolene Blailock called it ‘appalling’ even before it aired. [/QUOTE] IIRC, that episode was written during season 3 and was intended as the finale in case Enterprise (which was on the bubble that season) didn’t get renewed. The cliffhanger with the alien Nazi lizards would have run in its entirety to wrap up the Temporal Cold War arc, then “These Are the Voyages” would have aired to wrap up the series. When Enterprise was renewed for a fourth season, plans changed so that TATV became the series finale one year later. ---
**Author:** ![drewbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drewbert/32/15890_2.png) [@drewbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewbert)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-season-3-what-were-they-thinking/449038/27 "2008-05-24T23:29:57Z")
I’ve posted this here twice before, but it’s not like get I can a lot of mileage out of it these days: my proposed script for the start of the season 4 premiere, neatly resolving the alien nazi crap before the first commercial break. [link](http://www.circumspectfiesta.com/blog/2004/06/regarding-zero-hour.html). ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-season-3-what-were-they-thinking/449038/28 "2008-05-25T04:24:13Z")
Good point, **carnivorousplant**. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-season-3-what-were-they-thinking/449038/29 "2008-05-25T05:32:41Z")
[QUOTE=drewbert] I’ve posted this here twice before… [/QUOTE] Mayweather gets one line? Par for the course. “We’re done with you early, Tony. Might as well go home.” The easiest job of anybody who appears in the opening credits of any show until “Reaper,” where Andrew Airlie (Dad) and Valarie Rae Miller (Sock’s ex) get credited for episodes they aren’t even in. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-enterprise-season-3-what-were-they-thinking/449038.md?page=1)