# Star Trek eps you'd like to see that havent been done before.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 20, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809 "2019-06-20T16:00:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/41 "2019-06-22T02:32:11Z")

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> [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](#):
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> Kirk was not under the spell of Gargan. Remember the screen on the bridge showed normal space, but when Sulu looked at it, it either displayed the planet or a bunch of swords and daggers coming at the Enterprise.

If you’re going to allow “possessed/mind controlled by alien intelligence” as a defense, well, that just opens the door wide open.

Ensign, why were you on the holodeck when you should have been on duty? Mind controlled, sir!

Lieutenant, why were you running naked through the corridors? Mind control, sir!

Spock, why did you give McCoy the Vulcan death grip? Mind control, sir!

OK, can’t argue with that. Carry on. And have yourself checked out in sickbay.

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**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/42 "2019-06-22T03:05:16Z")

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Just Asking Questions: That was pretty funny.

A few weeks ago, I told a friend of mine that if I were a red shirt, I would tell Kirk: “Y,know, Captain, over the last 40 episodes we red shirts have died from phasers, from having all the salt drained from our body, from being shifted to other dimensions, from poison darts, from giant spears, from being turned into polyhedrons and crumbled. I don’t care about the Prime Directive, I don’t care about Star Fleet Command, I don’t care about your orders. If the next ET I see so much as twitches a tentacle, I’m blowing it to hell.”

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**Author:** ![bionic\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@bionic\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bionic_man)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/43 "2019-06-22T03:17:15Z")

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A red shirt make s through a adventure.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/44 "2019-06-22T04:46:14Z")

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> [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](#):
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> Just Asking Questions: That was pretty funny.
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> A few weeks ago, I told a friend of mine that if I were a red shirt, I would tell Kirk: “Y,know, Captain, over the last 40 episodes we red shirts have died from phasers, from having all the salt drained from our body, from being shifted to other dimensions, from poison darts, from giant spears, from being turned into polyhedrons and crumbled. I don’t care about the Prime Directive, I don’t care about Star Fleet Command, I don’t care about your orders. If the next ET I see so much as twitches a tentacle, I’m blowing it to hell.”

LOL…

And that red shirt was killed in the first ten seconds of beaming down in “Friday’s Child”

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/45 "2019-06-22T04:54:08Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> The infamous _ **TNG** _ episode “Code of Honor” had a planet ruled by blacks, and the Grand Poobah demanded Picard hand over one of the three white female leads for his harem. For reasons I don’t fully understand, this one is widely considered to be “racist.”
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> I’d’ve thought all the SJWs out there would be delighted \*\*\*Trek \*\*\*finally broke with the long-standing tradition of planets populated mainly by light-skinned aliens, but nooooooooo! This was definitely a case of “damned if you don’t, damned if you do.”
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> And the Big Kahuna wasn’t exactly presented with a wide selection of babes, either. (I would have gone with the redhead instead of the blonde, but there’s no accounting for taste).

_I_ get what you’re saying Terentii…but if everyone is saying something is racist (shrug).

I see a planet of mono-skinned aliens who dress kinda …Arabic?? and have this weird ‘dude from the 7-Up commercials accent’. Whose leader is very intrigued by a different looking alien woman. How many years have to pass before my interp overweighs historical precedent?? And its no longer racist?

BUT…i don’t care to fight on that hill. The “SJW writers” (Ok, well-meaning liberal writers) pissed me off with their ridiculous “Indian episode” a few years down the line. Thats the one I devote my energy to ranting about.

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/46 "2019-06-22T05:05:15Z")

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“When Diplomacy Fails.” Alt-title: “The Steel Fist Inside The Silk Glove.”

Picard & Co. are trying to mediate a dispute, but failing miserably; the situation erupts into all-out war between the factions.

In comes the not-so-nice Starfleet types, in a Defiant-type “gunship.” They’re all coldly rational military types, inflicting maximum carnage in minimal time, so much so the warring factions shit themselves and meekly come back to Picard, who smiles nicely, and says, “Now then; shall we resume negotiations?”

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/47 "2019-06-22T14:18:36Z")

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I had an idea once for a TNG episode where Worf and Riker are transmitted back in time to an early confrontation between the Klingons and the Federation. They have to protect each other and try not to interfere with the events. B story is the Ent D searching for them.

Oh, and another story that’s floated around for a while but never saw print was a what-if where the Botany Bay drifted in space for another century and is found by the Enterprise D.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/48 "2019-06-22T17:08:54Z")

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> [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](#):
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> Just Asking Questions: That was pretty funny.
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> A few weeks ago, I told a friend of mine that if I were a red shirt, I would tell Kirk: “Y,know, Captain, over the last 40 episodes we red shirts have died from phasers, from having all the salt drained from our body, from being shifted to other dimensions, from poison darts, from giant spears, from being turned into polyhedrons and crumbled. I don’t care about the Prime Directive, I don’t care about Star Fleet Command, I don’t care about your orders. If the next ET I see so much as twitches a tentacle, I’m blowing it to hell.”

> [@bionic\_man](#):
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> A red shirt make s through a adventure.

> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> LOL…
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> And that red shirt was killed in the first ten seconds of beaming down in “Friday’s Child”

> **[Redshirts (novel)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirts_(novel))**
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> Redshirts (originally titled Redshirts: A Novel with Three Codas) is a postmodern science fiction novel, by John Scalzi that satirizes Star Trek. The book was published by Tor Books in June 2012. The audiobook of the novel is narrated by Wil Wheaton. The book won the 2013 Hugo Award for Best Novel and Locus Award for Best Science Fiction Novel.
> In the prologue, several senior officers of the Intrepid, flagship of the Universal Union, lament the unusually high number of casualties of low-ranking ...

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/49 "2019-06-22T20:05:42Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> [Redshirts (novel) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirts_(novel))

For some reason, a link with parentheses confuses the board’s parser. I fixed it for you.

> **[Redshirts (novel)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirts_(novel))**
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> Redshirts (originally titled Redshirts: A Novel with Three Codas) is a postmodern science fiction novel, by John Scalzi that satirizes Star Trek. The book was published by Tor Books in June 2012. The audiobook of the novel is narrated by Wil Wheaton. The book won the 2013 Hugo Award for Best Novel and Locus Award for Best Science Fiction Novel.
> In the prologue, several senior officers of the Intrepid, flagship of the Universal Union, lament the unusually high number of casualties of low-ranking ...

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/50 "2019-06-22T21:12:50Z")

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theres a pc game called “redshirts” where your in a faux st:tos universe and your goal is to survive as long as possible under a faux kirk… its sort of short but its random every time you start a game …

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/51 "2019-06-23T01:00:03Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> For some reason, a link with parentheses confuses the board’s parser. I fixed it for you.
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> [Redshirts (novel) - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirts_(novel))

Thank you. Weird.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/52 "2019-06-23T01:03:54Z")

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The _Enterprise_ becomes female-sentient and realizes Kirk has professed his “love” for her many times. Then _she_ realizes Kirk is a major horn-dog and becomes jealous and proceeds to ruin his life and career, keeping the entire rest of the crew in the dark. Kirk tumbles to the ruse and begs for help, but just looks totes insane, which hastens his ruin. I don’t care how it ends.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/53 "2019-06-23T02:09:02Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> The _Enterprise_ becomes female-sentient and realizes Kirk has professed his “love” for her many times. Then _she_ realizes Kirk is a major horn-dog and becomes jealous and proceeds to ruin his life and career, keeping the entire rest of the crew in the dark. Kirk tumbles to the ruse and begs for help, but just looks totes insane, which hastens his ruin. I don’t care how it ends.

Didn’t this happen in _Futurama_ with Bender and the Planet Express ship?

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/54 "2019-06-23T02:12:59Z")

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There are so many episodes where something happened at the ending and you are left to wonder how it turned out but never know.

I’d LOVE a series in the Trek universe where they open with a synopsis of the past episode and then have a whole episode where we find out what happened next or how things turned out.

There’d be no set cast since each episode would be standalone as different ships and crews revealed what was happening in various places in the galaxy.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/55 "2019-06-23T02:21:16Z")

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^^ Time for me to re-visit New New York; I don’t remember much of **Futurama**.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/56 "2019-06-23T18:03:17Z")

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One where Kirk tells the fans “get a life!”

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**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/57 "2019-06-23T22:36:03Z")

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A Next Generation episode where the Enterprise is chosen to evaluate new uniforms for all of Star Fleet.

There would be countless costume changes, some homage to various sci-fi films and shows, some just to show off fantastic hats and shoes. Riker doesn’t want to give up a man purse and Picard starts going overboard with optional military bling. The _Hello Dolly!_ style gets a strong mixed reaction.

They become fed-up with all the distraction when Data offers a logical solution.

In the final scene the team of designers are shocked to enter the bridge to find everyone naked, as per the sci-fi convention that in a perfectly climate controlled environment where no one does work that causes chafing or even has to carry a pot of hot soup, clothes are unnecessary (although it’s really to keep juvenile pervs interested.)

Just as Picard finishes giving a speech about how they have advance adult attitudes about the human body and refuse to be constrained by conformist uniforms, the turbo lift opens and a naked Worf steps out. Everyone takes a quick look and agree there is no way in hell they are going all day looking at that. So, they decide to go with the one that looks like the old uniform except with a decent collar and Geordi is glad that in this one instance being blind has worked in his favour.

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**Author:** ![MacSpon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@MacSpon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacSpon)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/58 "2019-06-24T03:45:53Z")

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> [@BlueInfinity](#):
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> A First Contact episode where the natives don’t want to join the Federation, and actually have a good reason. I’m not sure what that reason would be, but I’m sure there is one. I seem to recall a novel where the locals actually chose to become part of the Klingon Empire, but I forget the details.

The TNG episode “First Contact”.

After much running around and shouting (and Riker getting sexually molested), the planet decided that they weren’t politically ready for contact with the Federation, but please come back in a generation or two.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/59 "2019-06-24T04:01:32Z")

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> [@MacSpon](#):
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> The TNG episode “First Contact”.
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> After much running around and shouting (and Riker getting sexually molested), the planet decided that they weren’t politically ready for contact with the Federation, but please come back in a generation or two.

Alien Lilith would like to point out that she did actually have full consent.

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**Author:** ![BlueInfinity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BlueInfinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueInfinity)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/60 "2019-06-24T12:55:14Z")

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The episode “First Contact” was about postponing First Contact, i.e. the planet wasn’t ready to join the galactic community. I’m talking about a planet that’s ready to go out there into space, but wants to consider all the options. Maybe they have a reason to join the Ferengi or Tholians or Klingons.

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