# Star Trek eps you'd like to see that havent been done before. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 20, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809 "2019-06-20T16:00:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/61 "2019-06-24T20:00:51Z")
> [@bionic\_man](#): > > A red shirt make s through a adventure. Scotty was a red shirt. Not all red shirts died and red shirts weren’t the only away party members that were killed. If more of them seem to have died in action, well I guess that goes with the duty, security, that went with the shirt. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/62 "2019-06-24T20:35:13Z")
> [@TimfromNapa](#): > > Scotty was a red shirt. Not all red shirts died and red shirts weren’t the only away party members that were killed. If more of them seem to have died in action, well I guess that goes with the duty, security, that went with the shirt. Lt Leslie was on a lot of missions, and was a bridge crew member as well, but only died once. (He got better, though.) ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/63 "2019-06-24T20:52:41Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Emphasis mine. You’d like the Star Trek: Destiny trilogy of novels; we _do_ find out about the origins of the Borg. And the Borg comes to destroy _everybody._ Thank you, I will look into them. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/64 "2019-06-25T01:13:42Z")
> [@TimfromNapa](#): > > Scotty was a red shirt. Not all red shirts died and red shirts weren’t the only away party members that were killed. If more of them seem to have died in action, well I guess that goes with the duty, security, that went with the shirt. One of the duties. Red was Operations, which covered security, engineering, communications, etc. Security and Engineering tend to have high body count, for obvious reasons. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/65 "2019-06-25T01:16:34Z")
^ Yeah, thanks a lot, Dr. Daystrom! ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/66 "2019-06-25T02:49:44Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > TOS-era had proposed an episode (written by DC Fontana, IIRC) where the Enterprise come across a reverse-earth planet, where the white folk are enslaved and the black people are in charge. It was supposed to feature McCoy and Uhura for maximum effect. I don’t think they could make it work\*, and it really might have been too much in the 60s. You could probably make it now, though, but it might be too simplistic. > \*Might have been the genesis for Let That Be Your Last battlefield Actually that could have been used in the TOS episode “The Cloud Minders”. The planet could orbit a hot blue star that puts out tons of ultraviolet light and the upper class are all dark-skinned who can tolerate the UV. The light-skinned lower class mostly stay underground working as miners because the UV is too much for them. The darks derogatively refer to the lights as “grubbers”, which as Spock explains refers both to their occupation as miners and an allusion to their pale skin. The dark rulers treat the visiting officers from the Enterprise rather paternalisticly, astonished that lights can actually be starship officers instead of drunken brawlers, commending them as “a credit to their race”. Also, at the start of the episode I envision the following scene: the party is preparing to beam down and Dr. McCoy is making sure everyone is heavily slathered with sunscreen, leading to the following exchange: KIRK: “Bones, you’re fussing like a mother taking her kids on a day at the beach”. MCCOY: “Day at the beach my keester! If I have to regenerate your hide because you let yourself get third-degree sunburn, I swear you’ll do it without anesthetic!” ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/67 "2019-06-25T02:51:42Z")
^ McCoy: I’m a doctor, not a _Baywatch_ lifeguard. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/68 "2019-06-25T03:02:26Z")
This wouldn’t be an episode but a novel, preferably by Diane Duane: In the opening, a conversation with Kirk and McCoy leads Spock to reveal that when his mother Amanda was pregnant with him, she was targeted by assassins that saw her as a threat to Vulcan racial purity. Most of the novel would be a flashback to this. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/69 "2019-06-25T04:21:10Z")
“The One Where They Name The Episode Like It’s _Friends_” ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/70 "2019-06-25T17:22:59Z")
This was an idea for a ST:TNG episode that I and my friend Scott thought up: Ryker, Worf, Data and Wesley are supposed to beam aboard, but a transporter malfunction occurs and they get replaced by their Mirror Universe counterparts. They manage to keep their cool when they see that everything is the same but different. They meet together privately and ascertain that they are in The Mirror Universe (to them), and decide they can take advantage of it. MU Riker is a conniving schemer who achieved higher rank by killing off his rivals, so in this universe, he plans to kill Picard and replace him as Enterprise Captain. MU Worf is more savage and doesn’t believe in honor. MU Wesley is an absolute snot who got his position from family influence, and loves to make rude and smartassed comments. MU Data is simply regarded as a machine that takes orders, and the others have no concept of him as a sentient person. He eventually turns on his comrades after seeing how humans in this universe treat him with dignity and respect. This is more or less what the fans at the time bitched about the most - Riker’s stupidity for passing up commands of other starships to be 2nd banana on the Enterprise, Worf always getting beat up, everybody hating boy genius Wesley, and _please stop the “Is Data human” crap_! This would have been an opportunity to make these characters so much more hateful, and to provide unpleasant alternatives to what fans already groused about. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/71 "2019-06-26T15:47:39Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > “The One Where They Name The Episode Like It’s _Friends_” I want them named like Wild Wild West, or Buck Rogers. The Night of\* the Treacherous Tribble The Night of the Infernal Computer The Night of Methusela’s Requiem The Night of the Mad Captain The Night of the Murderous Thespian The Night of the Body Switchers The Night of the Sikh The Night of the Surreal Kirk \*or Flight of, like Buck ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/72 "2019-06-26T15:59:41Z")
Too late to edit. What we need is a new Star Trek. _Steampunk_ Star Trek. Jules Verne-era space travel. Starfleet headquarters is in 1890s San Francisco. The Enterprise is all riveted metal, and the engine room is steam pipes and valves. Take the best of Wild Wild West, Q.E.D., Brisco County, The Bearcats, The Barbary Coast, 20K Leagues UtS, and The Time Machine, stir them together, skim off the crap, and voila, instant hit. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809/73 "2019-06-26T16:30:42Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Too late to edit. > > What we need is a new Star Trek. _Steampunk_ Star Trek. Jules Verne-era space travel. Starfleet headquarters is in 1890s San Francisco. The Enterprise is all riveted metal, and the engine room is steam pipes and valves. > > Take the best of Wild Wild West, Q.E.D., Brisco County, The Bearcats, The Barbary Coast, 20K Leagues UtS, and The Time Machine, stir them together, skim off the crap, and voila, instant hit. Would [Moriarty](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708773/characters/nm0204425?ref_=tt_cl_t10) have a on-going role? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-eps-youd-like-to-see-that-havent-been-done-before/835809.md?page=3)