# Star Trek Fans - Order the films, from best to worst! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 19, 2002, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452 "2002-11-19T03:30:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/21 "2002-11-19T19:22:19Z")
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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/22 "2002-11-19T20:25:29Z")
8675309 Damn you Tommy Tutone! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/23 "2002-11-19T20:41:18Z")
Star Trek II Wrath of Khan Star Trek III Search for Spock Star Trek First Contact Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country Star Trek The Motionless Picture Star Trek V Kirk meets God and beats him only because Shatner Dierected this one. Star Trek IV The crappy whale story which rips off much of the threat of the Motionless picture. You know Unstopable Probe coming to earth, the only solution lies in earths past. Enterprise crew the only ones to understand “The Question” etc etc. Star Trek: The really dumb way to use a nexus when you could easily have gone back further in time to stop Malcom McDowell before he was a real threat. Star Trek: Salerie Bores us to death more than Picard who still couldn’t grow hair despite this youth enducing planet nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/24 "2002-11-19T20:49:55Z")
1. ST 2 & ST 8 (tie) – Wrath of Khan, First Contact. 2. ST 6 – Undiscovered Country 3. ST 4 Voyage Home 4. ST 7 Generations 5. ST 3 Search for Spock 6. ST 9 Insurrection These 4 are tough – I like them fine, and could see myself ranking them differently on a different day. 1. ST 1 The Motion Picture (too much padding. Would have been better as a normal episode). 2. ST 5 Final Frontier (although I definitely have to lean towards “There is no 5”, **Tars**!) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/25 "2002-11-20T00:12:38Z")
1. Wrath of Khan 2. Undiscovered Country 3. First Contact 4. The Voyage Home 5. The Motion Picture 6. Search for Spock 7. Generations 8. Final Frontier 9. (being kicked in the nuts by Chuck Norris) 10. Insurrection ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c67d28/32.png) [@Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_AL_Einstein)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/26 "2002-11-21T08:50:33Z")
#1 Wrath of Khan #2 Undiscovered Country #3 Voyage Home #4 Search for Spock #5 Motion Picture #6 Final Frontier That’s it. As I have said before, there were only those 6 movies ever made. Try to tell me otherwise, and I will put my hands over my ears and go LA LA LA LA LA. Also, DeForrest Kelley didn’t die… ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/27 "2002-11-21T13:18:01Z")
Undiscovered Country\<-Best First Contact Khan! Insurrection Voyage Home Generations Search Motion Picture Final Frontier And I have high hopes for Nemesis. ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/28 "2002-11-23T05:22:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Menocchio \* > \*\*…And I have high hopes for Nemesis. \*\* Well, of course! It’s an even number. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Fifteen\_Iguana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Fifteen\_Iguana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fifteen_Iguana)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/29 "2002-11-24T20:18:06Z")
VG: 4 2 8 G: 6 3 F: 7 P: 9 5 1 Someone (Achernar?) ought to add up these scores and give us the average, or Common Wisdom. And let’s hope the Even Number Rule continues… Fifteen Iguana ---
**Author:** ![New\_Improved\_Scott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f17d59/32.png) [@New\_Improved\_Scott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Improved_Scott)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/30 "2002-11-24T20:40:03Z")
1st. - Wrath of Khan 2nd. -Search for Spock 3rd. - Voyage Home 4th - Insurrection 5th - First Contact 6th - Final Frontier 7th - Generations 8th - Motion Picture 9th - Undiscovered Country I despised Undescovered Country and the Motion Picture, and didn’t hate Insurrection as much as every one else. I’ve always thought Final Frontier was over-rated. ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/31 "2002-11-24T21:45:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fifteen Iguana \* > Someone (Achernar?) ought to add up these scores and give us the average, or Common Wisdom. I’m on it. ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/32 "2002-11-24T22:59:07Z")
Okay, I gave a movie 8 points for first place, 7 for second, and so on down to 0 for ninth place. Using only the 14 people who followed the rules (no ties or leaving movies out) then we have the following results: 102 points - Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan 79 points - Star Trek 8: First Contact 77 points - Star Trek 6: Undiscovered Country 72 points - Star Trek 4: Voyage Home 58 points - Star Trek 3: Search for Spock 39 points - Star Trek 7: Generations 30 points - Star Trek 9: Insurrection 29 points - Star Trek 1: Motion Picture 14 points - Star Trek 5: Final Frontier No surprises for the most part, although I did not expect 8 to beat 6. 6 was selected as first place by five people, and 8 was selected as first place by none. They each had one malcontent - **Eonwe** ranked 8 eighth, and **New & Improved Scott** ranked 6 ninth. **Fifteen Iguana** is the only person to select a movie other than 2 or 6 as first place. **Achernar** (that’s me!) put 2 lower than anyone else (fourth) and also put 4 lower than anyone else (eighth). **kingpengvin** put 5 higher than anyone else (sixth). If we include the five people who did not follow the rules, well, I did the best I could, and here are the modified results: 141 points - Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan 104½ points - Star Trek 6: Undiscovered Country 100½ points - Star Trek 8: First Contact 96½ points - Star Trek 4: Voyage Home 76½ points - Star Trek 3: Search for Spock 53½ points - Star Trek 7: Generations 42½ points - Star Trek 1: Motion Picture 39 points - Star Trek 9: Insurrection 21 points - Star Trek 5: Final Frontier I think you can probably thank **Weird\_AL\_Einstein** ’s NextGen denial for swapping the order of 6 & 8, and 9 & 1. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/33 "2002-11-25T16:51:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by New & Improved Scott \* > \*\* > I despised Undescovered Country and the Motion Picture, and didn’t hate Insurrection as much as every one else. I’ve always thought Final Frontier was over-rated. \*\* Mrr? Final Frontier? over-rated? How can it be over-rated if no-one likes it? Are you sure you’re thinking the right movie? (Energy barrier at the center of the galaxy? god needs a starship? Spock’s evil half-brother? Uhura’s fan dance? Row-row-row-your boat?) ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/34 "2002-11-25T17:45:34Z")
Hey I liked “what does God need with a starship?” And McCoy telling Kirk that he was pissed off at him. And McCoys revelation about his past. Sure there was dreck in the movie in many places but it wasn’t a total waste. BRING ON THE DVD iwth new Shatner footage, Shatner Induced Special effects and Shatner Commentary and Shatner special bonus features and Shatner book offers and Shatner Desktop picture and Shatner Screen Saver and special Shatner filmography, and extra special “they should never have cut out these Shatner moments” deleted scenes At least better than the Crapfest Generations (Not enough Shatner), and Coma inducing Insurrection (No Shatner at all WTF) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452/35 "2002-11-25T18:33:37Z")
1. The Wrath of Khan A first rate film in every respect. 1. The Voyage Home A little hokey and not enough space adventure, but as a movie it’s very good. 1. First Contact Overlong and badly paced at times, but generally a pretty good, exciting movie. Good supporting work. 1. Search for Spock A good movie in the vein of “Wrath of Khan” but a little light, and the story takes some weird and unnecessary liberties with logic. 1. Generations Not terribly good, but has its moments. 1. The Undiscovered Country Stupid and contrived. I honestly don’t understand why this movie is ranked so highly. 1. The Motion Picture Despite its bad reputation and bad story, it does have some decent parts. 1. Insurrection Just awful. Features the worst ground combat set peice in the history of cinema. 1. The Final Frontier Hand me that rope. Do you know how to tie a noose? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-fans-order-the-films-from-best-to-worst/137452.md?page=1)