# Star Trek inaccuracies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\
**Created:** [September 19, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862 "2022-09-19T23:05:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/241 "2022-11-05T16:25:56Z")

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I still think it should have been called _In Search Of… Spock_.

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/242 "2022-11-05T16:28:57Z")

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_Star Trek: The Weirdly Low Stakes That Ended Up Killing David, Destroying The Enterprise and Saving The Earth in the Next Movie_

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/243 "2022-11-05T16:44:59Z")

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Sarek did not need to collect Spock’s body. He was terribly disappointed that Kirk was nit carrying Spock’s katra (which is more like sum total of memories rather than soul).

BUT, a Star Fleet medical officer should have been aware of katra transfers, just as much as any other point of Vulcan physiology.  
(Enterprise established canonically that Vulcans are secretive assholes.)

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/244 "2022-11-05T17:30:15Z")

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Yeah but they know its in McCoy. So why go back and get Spocks body?

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**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/245 "2022-11-06T02:56:53Z")

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> [@Steven\_Maven](#):
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> What about the Holodeck?
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> _snip_
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> Nobody has sex with anything? Not even the most attractive crew member of their gender of choice?

Wouldn’t that be kind of like watching porn on a work computer? They can monitor is and it’s usually frowned upon.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/246 "2022-11-06T12:04:57Z")

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Some examples:

In one episode, Riker had a “wife,” Minuet.

Janeway got it on with that cool Irish dude.

Tuvak made it with a replica of his wife when _Pon Farr_ came around.

Apparently happens more often than we think.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/247 "2022-11-06T12:06:59Z")

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> [@Pavelb1](#):
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> Yeah but they know its in McCoy. So why go back and get Spocks body?

Because Nimoy changed his mind about killing the character off after _ **WoK** _ was in the can.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/248 "2022-11-06T13:16:55Z")

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> [@Pavelb1](#):
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> I never quite understood the linchpin of The Search for Spock

> [@terentii](#):
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> Because Nimoy changed his mind about killing the character off after _ **WoK** _ was in the can.

I, to quote Roger Ebert, HATED HATED this movie.

So, in TWoK, Kirk grows, learns the wisdom that even the cleverest of men cannot ultimately cheat death. It’s a necessary lesson in humility, and humanity. in movies (as opposed to series television in the day) characters should grow. They should actually learn from their experiences, This is a good thing.

So what is the ultimate lesson of

> [@Pavelb1](#):
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> Star Trek: The Weirdly Low Stakes That Ended Up Killing David, Destroying The Enterprise and Saving The Earth in the Next Movie

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That the cleverest of men can cheat death. That it is possible to be an arrogant smug bastard and make tactical mistakes and even kill your best friend, and so what? Someone will fix it for you.

The whole point of the scene with David at the end was iost, forever lost, like tears in the rain.

Speaking of, TSFS is like the special edition of Blade Runner. In BR, Deckard relearns how to be human, something he lost along the way, and it only took shooting a woman in the back and the self-sacrifice of a murdering replicant to find it.

And the the director’s cut comes along and says “oh really he’s a replicant, too. Aren’t we clever!” Well, no, because you undercut the whole point of the movie: to wit, replicants can be more human than actual humans.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/249 "2022-11-06T13:32:33Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> In BR, Deckard relearns how to be human, something he lost along the way, and it only took shooting a woman in the back and the self-sacrifice of a murdering replicant to find it.
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> And the the director’s cut comes along and says “oh really he’s a replicant, too. Aren’t we clever!” Well, no, because you undercut the whole point of the movie: to wit, replicants can be more human than actual humans.

I’m not sure that undercuts it; if you want to make a point about how human a replicant can be, and there’s a character who learns how to be human, wouldn’t him being a replicant mean that you now have one more example of just how human a replicant can be? And the opposite would mean that you, uh, don’t?

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/250 "2022-11-06T14:18:02Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> > [@Pavelb1](#):
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> > Yeah but they know its in McCoy. So why go back and get Spocks body?
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> Because Nimoy changed his mind about killing the character off after _ **WoK** _ was in the can.

Doyleist

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/251 "2022-11-06T17:16:58Z")

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> [@caligulathegod](#):
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> Wouldn’t that be kind of like watching porn on a work computer? They can monitor is and it’s usually frowned upon.

One would hope by the 22nd (or is it 23rd) Century we’d have gotten away from the primitive religion-driven notion that sex is not a normal happy thing for people to do.

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/252 "2022-11-06T17:37:42Z")

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Thats why the usual Trek “Well this is highly unusual, I had no idea it would be used for this” trope of Trek in the Barclay episode is so dumb…either everything goes because you’re so advanced or none of it goes because someone should have known a long time ago what it would be used for.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/253 "2022-11-06T17:59:42Z")

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Since humans have used virtually _every_ new step forward in technology for porn, you’d think they’d have seen that coming (sorry). Painting begot dirty pictures on the cave wall. Printing gave us filthy etchings. The telephone led to obscene calls “Mr. Watson - What are you wearing?”, VCRs took off when they made porn movies in that format, etc.

The first sexual use of the holodeck took place about 30 seconds after the person who invented it saw nobody was in the lab but him.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/254 "2022-11-06T18:53:18Z")

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Also…sure seems weird that ‘ship councilor’ is a bridge level position.

“Why is my psychologist in command of the night shift?”

In addition to ships psychologist, she also seems to be a general advisor to the Captain, Head of HR, and…part of JAG/CSI??

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/255 "2022-11-06T19:07:20Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> And if you put instant coffee in the microwave you can go back in time. (Old Steven Wright joke)

That’s just a scientific application of the endochronic properties of resublimated thiotimoline.

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> [@Pavelb1](#):
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> Also…sure seems weird that ‘ship councilor’ is a bridge level position.
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> “Why is my psychologist in command of the night shift?”
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> In addition to ships psychologist, she also seems to be a general advisor to the Captain, Head of HR, and…part of JAG/CSI?

Honestly, if her powers worked as advertised, I’d find it pretty easy to go with that: advise the captain when the guy on the viewscreen is lying; and then, in between just being a competent officer with an interpersonal ace up your sleeve, sort of go around the ship asking folks, _so, how are things going?_

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/257 "2022-11-06T21:48:27Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> > [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> > And if you put instant coffee in the microwave you can go back in time. (Old Steven Wright joke)
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> That’s just a scientific application of the endochronic properties of resublimated thiotimoline.

Finally, someone with a knowledge of the classics!

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Wasn’t there a TNG novel set in Mirror Universe where her counterpart was basically a political commissar for the Terran Empire?

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/259 "2022-11-06T22:08:54Z")

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You mean _[Dark Mirror](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Mirror)_?

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-inaccuracies/971862/260 "2022-11-06T22:19:57Z")

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So…her Romulan character in Face of the Enemy?

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