# Star Trek Lower Decks **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340 "2020-07-14T21:53:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/182 "2020-10-30T13:42:49Z")
Mariner is everything Michael should be. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/183 "2020-11-03T15:06:02Z")
> [@Jack\_Reynolds](#): > > kinda thought the character of Mariner was actively poking fun at Michael Burnham in Discovery - the “can do no wrong but disobeyed orders so is not the supreme leader of the Federation” type, except in a way that makes her likeable. I’d never thought of this but it’s so true it’s almost hard to believe there isn’t at least some truth to it, even down to the fact Mariner is Black and has a masculine-sounding first name. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/184 "2020-12-06T22:04:40Z")
I finished S1 last night. Well done, all in all, with some funny callbacks to earlier series. My favorites: the citizens of Beta III having fallen back into bad habits, worshipping Landru again; the First Officer referring to “TOS” (“Those old scientists,” naturally); Riker, Troi and the _Titan_ swooping in to save the day from those fucking Pakleds. And it was nice to see the homicidal app Badgy again. Loved the conspiracy-theory-spouting Lt. Steve Levy. Mariner: “You said Wolf 359 was an inside job.” Levy: “It totally was.” And later, as he leaves, “Changelings aren’t real! The Dominion War didn’t happen!” Sorry to lose the always-aggressive Bajoran Chief of Security, though. I’m hoping, in another callback to _TAS_, that they’ll replace him with an Edosian: [Edosian | Memory Alpha | Fandom](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Edosian) Agreed that Boimler won’t be on the _Titan_ for long. Funny to see how much Mariner already misses him, blowing up his PADD! > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Also in Mariner’s hoard: > > [Spock helmet - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=Spock+helmet) Ha! I totally missed that. Great Easter egg. > [@Reply](#): > > Really? [Mariner] was my favorite, and really the only one whose name I can even remember. Such _spunk_. I love how out of place she was in the Federation, surrounded by stable old fogeys with their regulations and space-age paperwork. Totally made the series for me… Yes, Mariner is hands-down my favorite character too. Smart, cute, spunky, brave and ready for anything. The actress’s voice is so lively and engaging, I’d be happy to listen to her read her shopping list aloud. > [@Miller](#): > > …Nah, this is 100% Mariner’s take on things - look at how she’s portrayed. She’s right about everything, wins every fight she gets in, and is constantly sassing off to high brass with basically zero repercussions, while Boimler is consistently the butt monkey in every situation. If Boimler’s telling the story, why is he making himself out to be such a titanic dork all the time? > > This is totally Mariner peacocking for an audience. Boimler’s sitting there saying, “That’s not how it happened!” and, “No you didn’t!” and “I was NOT crying!” I love this theory. But they still have to be lovingly married. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/185 "2020-12-08T22:34:44Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > the First Officer referring to “TOS” (“Those old scientists,” naturally) That was a total laugh out loud line for me. I recently finished it as well (got CBS All Access again). Was very well done! Glad they made it, even though there was some objection to it when it was originally announced. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/186 "2020-12-09T04:02:54Z")
BTW, why would the _Titan_ crew still be in the _TNG_ late-movie-era uniforms? Capt. Riker’s prerogative? Everyone else we’ve seen from Starfleet, on the _Cerritos_ and other ships and starbases, is in the same “modern” uniform. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/187 "2020-12-09T15:38:42Z")
I’m guessing captain’s prerogative. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/188 "2020-12-15T04:18:13Z")
> **[Is Star Trek: Lower Decks Canon? Here’s How to Settle the Debate](https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/star-trek-lower-decks-canon-settle-debate/)** > > The question of whether Star Trek: Lower Decks is canon or not is hotly debated. Here’s the easy and smart way to say yes, and still have your canon debates, too. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/189 "2020-12-16T07:28:32Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > BTW, why would the _Titan_ crew still be in the _TNG_ late-movie-era uniforms? Capt. Riker’s prerogative? Everyone else we’ve seen from Starfleet, on the _Cerritos_ and other ships and starbases, is in the same “modern” uniform. Also the later season DS9 uniform (can’t remember which changed over first). We have seen that the transition don’t take place at once, in _ST Discovery_ the Enterprise has the new uniforms and the Discovery crew is still waiting for theirs. In _Generations_ the Enterprise D crewmembers shift from the TNG era uniform to the DS9/Voyager version at various parts of the film The original TNG jumpsuit uniforms are seen on background characters throughout the later seasons The TNG uniforms are still worn at Starfleet HQ in DS9, and Sisko changes into that when on temporary assignment there. I am guessing the _Titan_ hasn’t received the shipment yet. Or rather their 3D printers, errr replicators, have yet to recieve the update so they can make them. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/190 "2020-12-16T14:34:37Z")
Not a bad fanwank. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/191 "2021-06-23T19:21:35Z")
Not sure if others have seen this: [Season 2 is set to premiere August 12](https://www.slashfilm.com/star-trek-lower-decks-season-2-release-date/). It will be on Paramount+, which is apparently CBS All Access but rebranded, so actually the same streaming service? It looks like the main cast are all returning, with no notable additions or subtractions announced. I’m looking forward to it - as so many others in this thread have commented, it actually felt like _Star Trek_. IMHO, the best Trek in any medium in decades. However, I don’t want to add yet _another_ streaming service. I’ll probably wait until the season ends, and then do a trial subscription or sign up for one month and binge it. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/192 "2021-06-23T19:53:39Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > It will be on Paramount+, which is apparently CBS All Access but rebranded, so actually the same streaming service? Yup…it was a rebranding when CBS and Viacom merged. And it is pissing me off that they are putting pretty much anything good on Paramount+ and charging for it (as opposed to having it on your local CBS channel). ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/193 "2021-07-20T22:12:28Z")
I’ve been rewatching Season 1 to gear up for Season 2 and man Mariner is a lot to take in those first few episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/194 "2021-07-21T14:03:18Z")
Agreed, it was about halfway through before I thought the show really hit its stride and became consistently enjoyable. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/195 "2021-08-12T13:19:48Z")
Well, the first episode of season 2 is out. I’m starting to think this jam session’s got too many licks and not enough comp. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/196 "2021-08-12T20:12:17Z")
Can’t wait! Here’s more: > **['Star Trek: Lower Decks' returns for sensational season 2 on Paramount+](https://www.space.com/star-trek-ower-decks-season-2-now-streaming)** > > Tune in tonight for the latest madcap misadventures of the crew of the USS Cerritos. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/197 "2021-08-12T22:30:36Z")
“Sir, there’s a giant head approaching the ship!” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/198 "2021-08-13T00:07:15Z")
Brace for grabbing! ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/199 "2021-08-13T11:49:00Z")
Good start to the season. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/200 "2021-08-19T13:00:56Z")
2x02 was one of my favorite episodes so far. Who knew that Starfleet had _Starship Trooper_-style communal showering? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/201 "2021-08-20T15:01:04Z")
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