# Star Trek Lower Decks

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\
**Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340 "2020-07-14T21:53:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/243 "2021-09-30T17:31:40Z")

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“Hey, that’s an anus!”

One of the less expected Star Trek lines.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/244 "2021-10-01T00:22:44Z")

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This latest episode was the funniest yet. Still laughing at the klingon ritual suicide scene and the visual of Boimler toting a dozen Borg babies!

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/245 "2021-10-01T03:40:28Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> \*I signed up for a free trial, pretty much just to get _Lower Decks_ . Looking around a bit, I was actually kind of astounded to realize that the entire service appears to have literally _nothing_ else I’m interested in watching.

That’s my huge problem with this show. It’s a very good show. But it is on a very bad streaming service 😐. I saw the first season via another access and I’m currently holding off until this one is done so I can burn my free trial on it. Because for me Paramount+ is a virtual streaming wasteland. It’s not like old sitcoms like Frasier were absolute crap relative to their time. It’s just I have zero interest in revisiting that content when there are a hundred other better things I still haven’t seen and I can get on better services.

Very low reward channel for the price. One of the predictable downsides to the fragmentation of TV content providers.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/246 "2021-10-01T09:45:15Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> That’s my huge problem with this show. It’s a very good show. But it is on a very bad streaming service 😐.

It’s on Prime in the UK. Neener neener.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/247 "2021-10-02T16:10:28Z")

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That episode was the Tuvix merging of hilarious jokes and Trek lore. It was really fun but I do have to admit seeing all the nakedness’ and sex in hat Trek context was a little disconcerting because it just isn’t something that was shown before. It was funny as hell but my inner prude was like, “This really shouldn’t be!”

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/248 "2021-10-07T16:31:10Z")

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This week’s Lower Decks might be one of my favorite episodes of Trek period. I never thought I’d say that when this series first started. I would watch an entire series with this premise.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/249 "2021-10-07T17:40:17Z")

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Klingon Boimler and Vulcan Mariner were pretty amusing.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/250 "2021-10-07T17:40:54Z")

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Yes, it (2x09) started out slow but ended up epic. Definitely one of the best episodes of the series so far. (And the closing credits scene was quietly hilarious.)

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/251 "2021-10-07T19:15:22Z")

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I agree with **Quimby.** This was an amazing episode and gives next week’s finale a very high bar to clear. What a brilliant way to exploit and expand the show’s premise. My god, I hope they bring Klingon Boimler and Vulcan Mariner back in some way. (It’s probably too much to hope that the Vulcan will end up on the Cerritos.) And the end credit sequence was perfect.

“Red _Alarm_! Red _Alarm_!”

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/252 "2021-10-07T19:28:28Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> seeing all the nakedness’ and sex in hat Trek context was a little disconcerting because it just isn’t something that was shown before. It was funny as hell but my inner prude was like, “This really shouldn’t be!”

That shot of Boimler spread-eagled was a little … surprising. Though I liked how Mariner responded by throwing herself out of an airlock.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/253 "2021-10-07T19:37:01Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> It’s probably too much to hope that the Vulcan will end up on the Cerritos.

I thought it was obvious that exactly that will happen.

On a different topic, when they showed 90182, my first thought was to think how close that was to 90210. My _second_ thought was to google and be disappointed that it wasn’t a zip code for Cerritos, CA.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/254 "2021-10-07T19:57:45Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I thought it was obvious that exactly that will happen.

I’ll be surprised if they expand the “main four” with another character, but maybe she can do a one-and-done guest shot.

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/255 "2021-10-07T22:30:09Z")

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That may have been the best Star Trek episode in the last 20 years. That may well have been the best Star Trek _anything_ in the last 20 years. I’m actually seriously a bit choked up by the emotional impact of well-done Star Trek by people who actually understand and _like_ Star Trek.

I think that may actually have been the single best Klingon episode of the whole franchise. I’m not sure any of the Worf-centric episodes of TNG or DS9 managed to portray the balance and tension of honor and intrigue in Klingon culture quite as well. Despite all the humor, both “Klingon Boimler” and the scheming captain managed to be well-realized, plausible, and very Klingon characters.

I didn’t think “Vulcan Mariner” worked _quite_ as well - she seemed to be a bit too careless with relying on instinct. But as with “Klingon Boimler”, her conflict with her captain managed to be work both as humor _and_ as drama. That was also one of the best Vulcan episodes of the whole franchise. It was seriously impressive how they made “Vulcan Mariner” sympathetic and the captain clearly wrong, while still making the captain seem _reasonable_. It wasn’t conflict for the sake of conflict, or even humor. The conflict seemed genuinely organic, as did the resolution.

I do find the Pakleds annoying, though. They’re by _far_ my least favorite element of this season. I don’t find them funny at all. Still, even with that, the rest of the episode around them was so strong, I’m willing to put up with them.

And the coda was _brilliant_.

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/256 "2021-10-07T22:36:35Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> This week’s Lower Decks might be one of my favorite episodes of Trek period. I never thought I’d say that when this series first started.

Ditto.

> [@Quimby](#):
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> I would watch an entire series with this premise.

That, I don’t think I agree with. I don’t think multiple consecutive episodes with this premise would work. But if they make one epsiode a season of _Lower Decks_ like this, or occassionally sprinkle in this sort of stuff, I’d look forward to it. I’ve got to admit, I’m curious with what they’d do with the lower decks of a Gorn or Thorian ship…

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/257 "2021-10-08T00:18:48Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> It’s probably too much to hope that the Vulcan will end up on the **Cerritos**

I think you meant to say “RITOS” there.

> **[New STAR TREK: LOWER DECKS Images: "wej Duj" ("Three Ships")](https://blog.trekcore.com/2021/10/new-star-trek-lower-decks-images-wej-duj-three-ships/)**
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> Here's a first look at images from "wej Duj" (that's Klingon for "Three Ships"), this week's new episode of STAR TREK: LOWER DECKS

I’m not a fan of ST:Discovery, but I did like this call back to their stupid shirts.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/258 "2021-10-08T01:23:40Z")

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I found myself totally immersed in this episode. Great fun.

PS: The Hawaii stuff was a callback I think to the TNG Lower Decks episode in which a junior officer tries to bond with Riker about Alaska.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/259 "2021-10-08T05:30:56Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> That may have been the best Star Trek episode in the last 20 years. That may well have been the best Star Trek _anything_ in the last 20 years.

Easily. Not even close. Lower Decks is BY FAR the best Trek since Next Generation and some of DS9. This is a Star Trek show done by people who get what makes good science fiction, and the fact it’s somewhat related to Discovery and Picard, absolute garbage shows, amazes me.

wej Duj is one of the ten best episodes of Star Trek ever made. It was flawless.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/260 "2021-10-08T14:17:01Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> I do find the Pakleds annoying, though. They’re by _far_ my least favorite element of this season. I don’t find them funny at all.

Every now and then a Pakled gag will slay me. Last season it was “_Another_ Enterprise?!” This season it was them “testing” a bomb and realizing it no longer worked.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/261 "2021-10-08T14:38:49Z")

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‘We will no longer be subjects of the big helmet - I am the ruler now - see my helmet’

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/262 "2021-10-08T14:45:38Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> Every now and then a Pakled gag will slay me.

I like how everything is just named “Pakled”. Their species, planet, and even ship…just “Pakled”.

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